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Israel
[edit]- Aqua Security (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:NORG: the article is entirely a list of acquisitions and funding rounds, referenced to trivial coverage ("inclusion in lists of similar organizations" and "of the expansions, acquisitions, mergers, sale, or closure of the business"). No significant coverage. Dan • ✉ 22:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Article really is littered with funding rounds. No coverage exclusively to the company in sources. Niashervin (talk) 22:56, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- The Casual Courier (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. The only coverage I can find is the one Wired article cited in the article. C F A 💬 23:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Folded without leaving a mark. Regardless, insufficient information is provided for an article. gidonb (talk) 02:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, fails all notability guidelines. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, no coverage found in WP:RS beyond what's on the page already, which is not adequate.49ersBelongInSanFrancisco (talk) 06:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Marius Nacht (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BIO, WP:SIGCOV. Never been referenced as a BLP since it was created. No indication of significance. scope_creepTalk 22:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Tagging in Atbannett, who contested the PROD. Atbannett, "he's a billionaire" won't go far as an argument here, but if you can provide some evidence of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources (see WP:GNG for more explanation), that's what we're looking for. -- asilvering (talk) 04:26, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:PROD, should never have been prodded as the deletion is not uncontroversial! (the bold is in the source) gidonb (talk) 04:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can tell that to the editor who proposed it, if you like. -- asilvering (talk) 04:47, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:PROD, should never have been prodded as the deletion is not uncontroversial! (the bold is in the source) gidonb (talk) 04:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Israeli engineer, entrepreneur, and billionaire with a biography in The Marker financial daily, written by journalist Itamar Cohen. This biography is SIGCOV. It was not just added so the intro does not hold water. In addition, there is an impressive list of references at Hewiki, just one click away. gidonb (talk) 04:31, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Gidonb, do you have evidence to say that he is notable, not the usual "he must be notable" as he is a billionaire. WP:THREE sources since that is the standard. Not paid for puff pieces. Independent secondary sourcing. The article has never been referenced since it was created? scope_creepTalk 06:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I never do "must be notable" so your question does not make any sense. The reference in the article is not a paid for puff piece. In fact all three references are RS. The TheMarker reference is the best. It's an independent biography (just like our article), in the financial newspaper of Israel's newspaper of record. You wrote
Never been referenced as a BLP since it was created. No indication of significance.
That's not serious. Your reaction, again, is not serious. We deserve better than that. gidonb (talk) 13:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- I'm as serious as I possibly can. Lets look at the references:
- Looking at the HU wikipedia references:
- Oh, I never do "must be notable" so your question does not make any sense. The reference in the article is not a paid for puff piece. In fact all three references are RS. The TheMarker reference is the best. It's an independent biography (just like our article), in the financial newspaper of Israel's newspaper of record. You wrote
- Gidonb, do you have evidence to say that he is notable, not the usual "he must be notable" as he is a billionaire. WP:THREE sources since that is the standard. Not paid for puff pieces. Independent secondary sourcing. The article has never been referenced since it was created? scope_creepTalk 06:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
That is first 7 references on the hu wikipedia and there is nothing there that satisfies WP:BIO. So there is no WP:THREE references that show he is notable. I've got a vpn. I'll see if I can see those 403's and the marker reference. scope_creepTalk 14:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- See reaction below your comment. Reacting to all claims together. gidonb (talk) 14:43, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I managed to view The Marker, the ref in article and one of the two 403 that were blocked in the he wikipedia. The third one was paywalled as it caught up. The first one is a X of Y who is the richest list with Nacht worth 3.5billion. Doesn't inspire confidence to call it biography. Call it what it, probably a self-written profile by his publicist, light on detail. It doesn't meet the requirement on WP:BLP "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources". The second one is not much better. All these fail WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 14:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- These two biographies (link1 and link2) are by themselves more than sufficient to meet the General Notability Guideline. The claim that there is no identification of significance is clearly unfounded. This individual is a recognized businessman. For businesspeople, billionaire status inherently signals a level of significance far beyond that of owning two corner stores. Given the complete lack of merit in the opposing argument, perhaps consider withdrawing? gidonb (talk) 19:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, He's a highly prominent businessman, co founder of Check Point, with extensive press coverage. For example, see [7] [8] [9] [10] . Whizkin (talk) 18:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This nomination ranks high among the more ridiculous AfDs. Subject is very obviously notable and the references are in the article and nearby to show that. Nothing in the intro is correct. It looks as if it was written for another article, then the wrong article was nominated. gidonb (talk) 21:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- There are only three references in the article at present, two of which are not about him at all. It's hardly fair to call this "among the more ridiculous AfDs", whatever you think of the notability of the subject. -- asilvering (talk) 22:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:NEXIST: Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. The bold is in the source, so we will not miss it! gidonb (talk) 22:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: There is coverage of this person [11], [12], and [13] are coverage about his activities, not so much about the person himself. I don't see much coverage in the article, the source analysis of the new sources above seems about right, just enough in RS. Oaktree b (talk) 00:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Oaktree b! Just like we carry Nacht's biography, two reliable sources do the same. These are comprehensive sources on the person. The links are: biography1 and biography2. gidonb (talk) 02:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I edited the article so now it has
78 sources. Please check again. Whizkin (talk) 05:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Arie Hershcovich (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I cannot find independent sources with significant coverage suitable to meet WP:NBASIC, and I cannot find evidence to pass WP:ANYBIO or WP:NPROF. I have looked under both the article name and "Arie Hershkowitz", the name given on the CV in reference 1. Mgp28 (talk) 06:25, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. His name is אריה הרשקוביץ. Most of his research is under Arie Herscovici, with other sources under Arie Hershcovich and Arie Hershkowitz. אריה has many spellings as well but hopefully that part is more consistent for this Arie. gidonb (talk) 11:06, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for this. Using "Arie Herscovici" I'm still not seeing enough independent coverage to make me think the article meets the appropriate notability criteria. An attempt at using his name in Hebrew with Google Translate seemed to bring up news stories about people with the same name who are not him, but I will be interested to know if there are sources in Hebrew that show notability. Mgp28 (talk) 17:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Both names are fairly common. Hershkowitz is the status quo name in English, French, and German. Herșcovici is the Romanian spelling. gidonb (talk) 23:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yehuda Tagar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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BLP without any demonstration of notability. It was tagged by Klbrain with a PROD in April 2024; the PROD was objected to with some discussion of improving it. Fast forward to August 2024 and nothing has changed. No proof of notability so nominated for deletion. Ldm1954 (talk) 10:05, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete; doesn't meet WP:NACADEMIC and there seems to be no interest from editors in the alternative proposal on using the text as a core for an article on psychophonetics. Yehuda Tagar seems to be a practitioner who frames his practice as an institute, but doesn't seem to be recognized expert in the discipline. The references all support psychophonetics as a topic, but not Tagar. Google scholar shows about 3 publications from Tagar. The page seems promotional. Klbrain (talk) 10:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Psychology can be a very high-citation field but he has very low citation counts, so he does not pass WP:PROF#C1. And heading organizations might only be cause for notability if those organizations themselves are notable independently from the subject, for which we have no evidence. The claim to have founded psychophonetics is made implausible by Google Scholar searching which finds the term to be used for subjects related to psychoacoustics going back to the 19th century and Jan Baudouin de Courtenay. Perhaps Tagar uses it in a different sense but that other meaning seems to be the more common one. So I tend to agree with the comment mentioned by Klbrain that retargeting rather than deletion might be a bad idea. —David Eppstein (talk) 20:02, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Regular professional at work. Nothing wrong with that but it does not make one encyclopedic. I have give or take 3 scientific publications and am definitely not notable! The primary is needed for a notable Yehuda Tagar who was a Mossad agent. Just died at the ripe age 100.[14] gidonb (talk) 15:34, 29 August 2024 (UTC)