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Muhammad Ali Mirza[edit]

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There is no specific WP:SIGCOV, and no in-depth coverage. There is routine coverage. Which clearly fails WP:GNG. He is a common youtuber, just known for his controversial statements. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 06:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Islam, Pakistan, and Punjab. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 06:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree Hammad (talk) 11:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I will reserve a !vote for now but this and this doesn't look like some ROTM coverage. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 12:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:SIGCOV as we have in-depth coverage in at least two publications, i.e. BBC Urdu ([1], [2]) and Independent Urdu ([3]). Further references in Dawn ([4], [5], [6]). Some analysis of his work here ([7]). He is controversial like Martin Luther was during his lifetime which is ok. 2400:ADC7:5104:D400:6520:B74E:4354:AD86 (talk) 12:50, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The sources provided by Saqib meet WP:SIGCOV standards, with extensive reporting about him, sometimes due to his controversial statements and attempts on his life. If he is not notable, why is there so much coverage about him? Sources like BBC Urdu, as well as Indian and Pakistani news sites, report about him. In my POV the subject meets WP:GNG and the article should be kept. Minor portion of the article which are from non reliable sources can be removed. GrabUp - Talk 12:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Islamic Association of Palestine[edit]

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Very obvious WP:POVFORK of Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, spends much of the article talking about the trial and the same people from a very biased POV. Not certain if there are notable differences from the HLF article User:Sawerchessread (talk) 19:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some Info:

Initial Merge Discussion

I've been trying to solicit advice about Islamic Association of Palestine and merging it into Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development. I don't want to force a WP:SILENCE on this, as I assume this may be contentious and relate to WP:ARBPIA, but it seemed noone was interested in a merge discussion after a month.

Information about the trial

The IAP article is a POVFork about the same trial as the HLF, with the same individuals and facts of the trial, and the original version of the article IAP last month went really deep into various conspirary theories linking IAP to every other Muslim organization in some grand "Jihad" terrorist ring. Particularly egregiously, the support for the conspiracy theory was from a source that was attempting to debunk it. The sourcing for HistoryCommons.org is a deadlink. And a source from Matthew Levitt is used more than ten times to make up most of this article, a person from the very pro-Israeli Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and a key witness for the trial. Relying so heavily on sourcing that is intrinsically related to the trial seems like a good argument to suggest this is an article about the HLF trial and not the IAP as an organization.

Information about what the IAP

I can't seem to find anything specific about the IAP from a lot of searches that doesn't immediately reference the HLF trial, and some of the sourcing on this that seemed to talk more specifically about the IAP is from deadlinks. If the only thing notable about the IAP is the HLF trial, then the article should be just merged into the HLF trial page.

I cleaned up some of it, but there is not enough differences between the two versions I think to justify making a new article.

The HLF article makes more sense and seems more objective without having to go full "Civilization Jihad." User:Sawerchessread (talk) 19:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 June 22. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 19:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 20:09, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh[edit]

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Opening this deletion discussion per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE on the talk page (here). Would love to hear editors' thoughts going forward. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I would urge anyone who comments in this discussion to look on the talk page from (one of) the subjects of the article. GnocchiFan (talk) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is too notable to delete. Maryam Rostampour is arguably notable as well, despite the fact that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is the only one of the two with continuing coverage. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Christianity, Islam, Iran, and Georgia (U.S. state). Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:16, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh exists as a draft. Assuming that both women are notable, perhaps Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh could be added to article space after any necessary improvements are made, and this article could be moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller (her current name), thereby preserving the edit history. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If agreement is that there is enough information to split, I think this is a good idea. Otherwise, I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh's name be removed from this article per request and this article moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller per your suggestion. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Split I think it is reasonable to have this specific article deleted. However, I would be open to the thought of having a separate article for Maryam Rostampour if she is notable enough. Marziyeh Amirizadeh on the surface level appears to be a notable figure (I have not done much research into her life though), so I would be more comfortable with having a separate article for her. ❤History Theorist❤ 18:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A person claiming to be one of the subjects of the article requested that it be deleted because they don't want to be associated with the other person? The title is probably inappropriate and would be more appropriate as something else but this does appear to be a notable event. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the editor claiming to be the subject says on the talk page that she paid $300 to have her Wikipedia article written. Is this the current draft, created by an editor who has edited no other topic? PamD 22:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:12, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Expectations from the Muslim Woman[edit]

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A lecture that I can't find non-passing coverage of. What sources do exist don't really seem to be discussing this specific lecture, but mentioning it in context for Ali Shariati's views on women and Islam. There is a language barrier however so I could be missing something. If not, redirect to Shariati's biography. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:58, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Ali Shariati Oaktree b (talk) 14:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If the issue is notability, it seems that finding out how many scholarly works cite Expectations as a source might help. I'm attempting this at Google Scholar, but there are probably more efficient sites out there: [8] I clicked on one of the Google Scholar results, more or less at random, and I got this 2014 study that cites it: [9] And so do these [10] This took probably three minutes. It's likely there are a lot more out there. If anyone has a university JSTOR access, we could have this thing sourced up in no time. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:10, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Darkfrog24 I mean, sure, it's cited, but the issue is I can't find any sources that talk about the actual thing besides the fact that it exists. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Its academic nature may affect our ability to do that from this side of the paywall. It doesn't look like the sort of thing that would end up in the New York Times book review. Do you have JSTOR access? Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Couldn't find anything on that, ProQuest, Gale, etc. If there is sigcov it probably isn't in English, which is the issue. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I checked and there's one linked article to another Wiki. The sources, whose titles appear in English, seem to be just Expectations itself. I'm comfortable to deletion without prejudice if better sourcing appears, but I'm not confident it exists. Darkfrog24 (talk) 13:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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