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Video logging[edit]
- Video logging (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Bereft of encylopedic content, while the term is cleary genuine it's also pretty self explanatory (that video logging is the logging of video, thank you wikipedia). Reads somewhere between a how to guide and veichle for spam. Article isn't serving any purpose not met by Digital asset management, Content management etc. -- D'n'B-t -- 09:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Kind of want to Keep just because Vlogging exists, can be called video logging as well, and this seems needed for distinguishment against that. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:44, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Knives Out (film series)[edit]
- Knives Out (film series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redrafitify as too soon per MOS:FILMSERIES which recommends three films, currently only two have been released for this series with a third planned, it'll be more necessary if the third is released but that's crystal ball. Indagate (talk) 16:04, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep since the third film is in production, so it is across the threshold of being nearly-guaranteed to come out. (In the film industry, until filming starts, the creation of a film is much less certain.) This is why the third film has its own standalone article when it started filming. We'd just be deleting this film series article to bring it back later. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 16:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: There are two movies released, with the third now in production. This is not at all uncommon to have an article, similar to how the third film has a page (see @Erik:'s comments). DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: If the third movie has a page, then the series can have a page. If you'd like to delete the third movie's page because of WP:CRYSTAL, then go and do that. Toughpigs (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: While I agree with Indagate's rationale that this is still too soon and technically against the film series MOS, I see no harm in keeping it up now that it is here. That in mind, @DisneyMetalhead, it is typically best practice to have a talk page discussion at one of the main related articles (ie at Talk:Knives Out) BEFORE submitting these types of drafts for an AfC, as AfC is not always aware of the film MOS guidelines, case in point, what we have here. This article is definitely in need of major ref additions and cleanup throughout, which probably should have been squared away before a move, though those can always be rectified. Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Expansion and/or additional refs/details can be added at any point in time. I did not think it would be controversial at all to create a film article about the collective details of the film series as a whole. DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Third film is already in production and has it's own article. Upcoming films incredibly rarely get canned once they've began shooting. If the third film itself can already have an article I see no guideline reason why the film series can not.★Trekker (talk) 23:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Evernew Pictures[edit]
- Evernew Pictures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to meet the GNG as well as relevant NORG. All I found on the web is some ROTM coverage, but nothing significant or in-depth. On a related note, this film production company produced some films that do not even meet WP's standards of notability. Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Agha G. A. Gul. I agree with Saqib's assessment. This is a company so it has to meet WP:NCORP criteria. Unfortunately, the coverage is trivial and mostly related to Evernew Studios which is a notable topic. I still think there might be some offline coverage which we are missing in a simple before so please redirect it to Agha G. A. Gul for now. 2400:ADCC:144:8200:8483:7158:CABA:36A (talk) 11:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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The Bitter Dawn[edit]
- The Bitter Dawn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article has zero references since 2007, and unable to find comprehensive, in-depth coverage of this specific film. Article was created on 23 September 2007; Prod on 12 October 2007; then first AfD on 28 August 2010 here along with a group of additional articles. JoeNMLC (talk) 20:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. No sources available whatsoever, in English anyway, to establish WP:GNG or WP:NFILM. (If Persian sources are found ping me.) The 2010 AfD was a significantly flawed discussion not driven by policy-related arguments. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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ఐ 20[edit]
- ఐ 20 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed during NPP. 2 of the 3 sources appear to be copies of each other (I couldn't access the third), and no reliable sources were found online. Does not meet WP:NFILM. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify: I have the feeling that this wasn't released on the announced date (14 June), so let's wait for release and reviews. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:51, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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Could the article title instead be the English translation? — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 12:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete the title using another script doesn't help searching; regardless, I can't find mentions of this. The sources are listed as marginal reliability per Cite Highlighter, and I don't see any others we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 16:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Singara Chennai[edit]
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No reliable reviews or other sources other than a single production source. A search in Sify ([1]), Chennai Online ([2]), and BizHat ([3]) proves futile. Please find the Kalki and Cine South reviews or redirect to Chennai as all online sources prove to be a description for the city. A WP:BEFORE found a fleeting mention here (சிங்கார சென்னை). DareshMohan (talk) 03:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Chennai: Per nom. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete or Redirect to Kalabhavan_Mani#Tamil_films. Poor sources with no significant coverage and reliable critic reviews. RangersRus (talk) 13:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I, the nominator, withdraw, my nomination in light of a new production source. Thanks @Srivin:. DareshMohan (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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Adam Kendrick[edit]
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this previously unreferenced article about an actor (also known as Adamo Palladino), and added two sources. One is a passing mention and the other is an interview with a family member in the local paper. I don't believe he meets WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Tacyarg (talk) 04:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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Kali Raat[edit]
- Kali Raat (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails general notability guideline. search only turns up a song of the same name and the phrase "kali raat". ltbdl (talk) 01:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Hindi films of 1977: notable cast and musicians, is verifiable (see Books) not opposed to keep if sources can be found to expand this. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - I see it has an entry in Encyclopedia of Indian Cinema. It needs expansion, not deletion. Shahid • Talk2me 13:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Expand it? There are no reliable sources. What exactly will you use for content? Meanwhile, why don't you cite that enclopedia article somewhere so we can all read it. Yappy2bhere (talk) 02:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Per Shahid, notable. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to List_of_Hindi_films_of_1977#A-Z. No sources with enough coverage and reviews. Fails WP:GNG and fails to warrant a standalone page on the film. RangersRus (talk) 15:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Hindi films of 1977 or Delete. The only source I've seen is IMDb, which is as questionable as the current wiki page. I'm not even sure how one would be able to appropriately expand the article, given the lack of WP:SIGCOV. I'm pro-redirect given the notability of those involved in the film. Lindsey40186 (talk) 01:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Keeping it is out of the question. Google finds no reviews, no interviews, no box office, nothing - fails WP:GNG with knobs on. There isn't even a reliable source to establish cast members or release date. I find a monochrome movie poster (VHS box? idk) that names the production company and five members of the crew but no cast and no year. There is no way to write a "reasonably balanced article" without sources. Redirecting to List of Hindi films of 1977 isn't an option. There's no reliable source that confirms it even belongs in that list. I find a movie poster (VHS box? idk) that names five members of the crew but none of the cast or the release date. Without support that entry will be removed sooner or later, the proposed redirect will then redirect to a page that doesn't mention the topic, and we'll waste some time at WP:RfD disposing of an ill-considered redirect. Yappy2bhere (talk) 02:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Unless more or better coverage at WP:Library or elsewhere convinces us otherwise, redirect to List of Hindi films of 1977. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Entries exist in six books. DareshMohan (talk) 05:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @dareshmohan: where??? ltbdl (talk) 06:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- oh, you added them to the article. but entries are not remotely significant coverage. ltbdl (talk) 06:27, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- @dareshmohan: where??? ltbdl (talk) 06:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. None of the recently added sources satisfy notability. Recently added sources are google snippets. Source snippet 1 has an entry with the names of director, producer, Musician and cast but misses the year. Source snippet 2 has List of entries starting with Kala but does not list Kali Raat. Source snippet 3 has an entry for Kali Raat with name of director and year. No significant coverage or any critical reviews for the film. I still stand by my vote earlier to Delete or Redirect to List_of_Hindi_films_of_1977#A-Z. RangersRus (talk) 12:46, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Ravenstein (film)[edit]
- Ravenstein (film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG, no significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Coverage is limited to promotional announcements of upcoming screenings in a local paper ([4]), awards published by non-notable film festivals and primary sources. Rotten Tomatoes lists no critics' reviews; searching online, I was able to find only this, which is an unreliable one-man blog. signed, Rosguill talk 15:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify: It could have been redirected to the director with the local source mentioned above but....the nominator just moved their page to DRAFTspace five minutes before nominating their films....so no choice, if we don't want to editwar and make this very confusing...let's DRAFTitfy this and maybe users can make one or two or three decent pages with redirects and merge of content. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Even taken all together none of the sources really seem viable for writing either an article about the director or the films. The totality of coverage in independent sources across the articles is the local paper announcement and a review of another film in a maybe-reliable indie source ([5]). signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, maybe, I don't know. But since you draftified the article on the director, I think we should draftify this. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Even taken all together none of the sources really seem viable for writing either an article about the director or the films. The totality of coverage in independent sources across the articles is the local paper announcement and a review of another film in a maybe-reliable indie source ([5]). signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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Film festivals in Pristina[edit]
- Film festivals in Pristina (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Omnibus article that's merging a bunch of unrelated events into a single "topic" in an attempt to bypass around the fact that most of them likely wouldn't meet notability standards on their own. Essentially, this is a compilation of mini-articles about six different film festivals, one of which does also have its own separate article but the other five do not, and none of which have any obvious connection with each other beyond happening to be held in the same city -- and most of the article's content is referenced to primary sources that are not support for notability at all, such as tourist information guides and content self-published by the festivals themselves, rather than WP:GNG-building coverage about them in reliable sources.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation of articles about some or all of the individual film festivals in Pristina as their own standalone things if they can be properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria, but collating a bunch of unrelated film festivals together into a single omnibus article isn't a way around having to use properly reliable sources to establish each festival's own standalone notability. Bearcat (talk) 15:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Maybe Rename List of film festivals in Kosovo and remove really non-notable events and add other festivals held in Kosovo. As for the fact that
none of which have any obvious connection with each other beyond happening to be held in the same city
...hmm....yeah, that's what the page is about. Not opposed to a plain keep (https://theculturetrip.com/europe/kosovo/articles/the-5-best-festivals-in-kosovo ; https://prishtinainsight.com/kosovo-film-festivals-to-go-ahead-despite-covid-19/ ; https://www.google.com/search?q=Film+festivals+in+Pristina+-wikipedia&sca_esv=ee8b71f1efd28755&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&ei=sRBoZt6IM-Dbi-gP5I-D-Aw&start=10&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwiepfbFltOGAxXg7QIHHeTHAM8Q8tMDegQIBBAE&biw=871&bih=496&dpr=2 etc.)-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- "hmm....yeah, that's what the page is about" is not a mic drop on anything. It was precisely my point that while obviously that is what the page is about, it is not what Wikipedia articles are supposed to be about, so the very fact that the page is about that is precisely the problem with it. Collating a bunch of non-notable things together into one giant list is not a way around any problems establishing that the individual things would be notable enough to have their own articles. Bearcat (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand your comment, unless it's just a rewording of your rationale, in which case, yeah, sure, I heard you the first time. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- You "heard me the first time", and yet argued "keep because the page is about what the page is about" while completely ignoring the important point that pages aren't supposed to be about that? Bearcat (talk) 14:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- No. Just re-read my comment carefully and don't misquote me. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- You "heard me the first time", and yet argued "keep because the page is about what the page is about" while completely ignoring the important point that pages aren't supposed to be about that? Bearcat (talk) 14:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand your comment, unless it's just a rewording of your rationale, in which case, yeah, sure, I heard you the first time. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- "hmm....yeah, that's what the page is about" is not a mic drop on anything. It was precisely my point that while obviously that is what the page is about, it is not what Wikipedia articles are supposed to be about, so the very fact that the page is about that is precisely the problem with it. Collating a bunch of non-notable things together into one giant list is not a way around any problems establishing that the individual things would be notable enough to have their own articles. Bearcat (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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- I just removed some extremely promotional wording from the lead of the article, which does not bode well for COI/UPE. Add to that the contributions of its creator, which solely consist of creating this page. I think I lean delete, but I would also support moving this to List of film festivals in Kosovo. Toadspike [Talk] 08:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete only one entry is notable (i.e.: has its own article). If we remove all others, we are left with a list containing one item, which has no reason to exist. Hence my !vote for deletion. Broc (talk) 12:38, 25 June 2024 (UTC)