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Celebration[edit]

Celebration (Madonna album)

4 articles

"Celebration"

"Revolver"

Celebration: The Video Collection

I believe the topic should include all the 10+ singles it covers. Only about half of them are GA/FA. Nergaal (talk) 21:56, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delist as not comprehensive. --Admrboltz (talk) 22:05, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It has all of its singles on the topic. It doesn't need anymore articles added to it. GamerPro64 (talk) 23:14, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- While it may have all the specific singles, why not all of the articles that are linked to under the track listing. They all have articles, thus should be part of this GT. --Admrboltz (talk) 02:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I looked at all of the articles and I saw that Celebration and Revolver are exclusive to the album while the rest are from preivious albums (probably why its a greatest hits album). So, this topic is all complete. GamerPro64 (talk) 03:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Articles can be part of multiple topics. The fact that an article is or would be in another topic does not mean that it should not be included if it is in the scope of the topic. Nergaal (talk) 04:30, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Just to give a concrete example: helium is both a noble gas AND a group 1 element. Nergaal (talk) 04:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delist A greatest hits album is about the hits! It does not make since to ignore most of the content of the topic. Z gin der 2010-12-13T02:47Z (UTC)

I would tend to be towards keep, as GamerPro64 pointed out, not all the songs present from the album are singles from it. And why the hell weren't hte wikiprojects or the primary contributers notified of this? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:02, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Users not notified, and people who still beliving that compilation albums muat include all songs, EVEN if they are not released on that album. Tbh®tch^Talk ^© Happy Holidays 05:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This is poor process. At the moment there is a greatest hits GTC taking place. As this discussion involves a change in precedent, why not take the all hits/only singles discussion there. And the fact that no-one was notified is shocking. Adabow (talk · contribs) 05:11, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delist Despite this bad procedure, I would say that a greatest hits topic is incomplete without the hits. Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Ummm, not all of Madodnna's songs are singles from this greatest hits package. This nomination is absurd. It had two singles and a video. Keep Keep Keep.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 05:17, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Question for all those that vote keep: how does this topic pass criteria 1.d.:

There is no obvious gap (missing or stub article) in the topic. A topic must not cherry pick only the best articles to become featured together?

This topic is not titled "Singles from Celebration", so it should contain all the articles within the topic if they are notable enough to exist. Nergaal (talk) 05:25, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As Tbhotch pointed out, they are not released as singles from this album, and have no point here. This nomination is fundamentally flawed. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:32, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leaving asides the COI, is this an Overview topic? No. Then all the songs within its scope should be included per 1.d. The compilation sold not just because of the singles, but because of all the songs that were included. The singles reasoning sounds like saying that a TV season topic should only include the episodes that were heavily promoted, like those that were run right after the SuperBowl or around similar events, and exclude those that were not marketed in an unusual fashion. Nergaal (talk) 06:05, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delist. This should not be considered a complete topic unless all of the songs on the album that are notable enough to have articles are at least GA status, not just the new songs on the album. A person reading this topic would want to learn about all of the songs on the album, not just the new ones. –Grondemar 07:07, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I agree with the above statements that want this to remain a good topic--Blackjacks101 (talk) 22:26, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delist. Singles are more 'important' to an album than the other songs, but that doesn't make other songs unimportant or irrelevant. —Goodtimber (walk/talk) 16:22, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delist - I tend to agree with the above rationale, and the same should be applied for the Britney Spears one. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:56, 8 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Close with consensus to delist. With this and the Spears one, looks like we have precedent now. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]