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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Trevor Allen Gagner

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I was wondering why my page was declined? Do you have any suggestions to make article more acceptable?

Thank you

Trevor

Magnanomous1 (talk) 03:53, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There are two issues. Firstly, your draft cites no sources whatsoever. How can I verify that gagner is a descendant of "the American cowboy Will Rogers"? All Wikipedia content should be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles or reviews of his work published by reputable music magazines. Secondly, for all I can tell Gagner's album isn't even released yet, and "working on an album" is not sufficient to make a person notable enough for a Wikipedia article in the first place. Huon (talk) 16:31, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Help Desk,

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sunshine_Coast_Labour_Council

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sunshine_Coast_Labour_Council


My article has been declined due to not meeting minimum citation standards. I have read what seems like 100 pages, and still do not get how to embed a simple citation to a web site. Unfortunately, the video does not work on my browser. All, I want to do here, is source the first sentence of my page to the SCLC's web site. First of all, will that meet the citation requirements; and second, could you give me some direction on the best approach to do this.

Thank You,

Glen! (Tommydoug) Tommydoug (talk) 07:17, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a reference to the SCLC's website to the first sentence so you can see how it's done, but their own website is not the type of reliable independent source that Wikipedia content should be based on. That would be articles in newspapers or reputable magazines, or maybe peer-reviewed scholarly papers.
Anyway, well-formatted footnotes are created in two parts: The footnote itself is created by <ref>Footnote text here.</ref> tags; it should be placed immediately after the statement supported by that source (and after the punctuation). To nicely format the reference we have a couple of citation templates such as {{cite web}}, {{cite news}} and {{cite journal}}. Those should be used within the <ref></ref> tags. The easiest way to add references is via the refToolbar; even without the video Help:Referencing for beginners explains how to do so. You can also add the references manually, though. Huon (talk) 16:31, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Russian-speaking reviewer needed

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All the references in WT:Articles for creation/Larisa Matros are in Russian, we need someone who can understand them to review the draft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt you'll have any luck here if you had none at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation. I don't think many reviewers keep an eye on the help desk. Huon (talk) 16:31, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't understand why this was rejected. It is a very influential and important record label in Taiwan's music history. I linked to some former Crystal recording artists who now have extensive Wikipedia pages, and listed two reliable sources -- the Taipei Times newspaper and a long-form article that appeared in a magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shuhuikung (talkcontribs) 18:10, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Taipei Times mentions the label only in passing; it devotes no more than a single sentence to it. The "long-form article that appeared in a magazine" is rather dubious - what magazine, for example? Who wrote it? Why is it hosted by the ROC's foreign ministry? Even if that were a reliable source, notability requires more than just one source that covers the subject in some detail. Huon (talk) 18:29, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]