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List of Indian Coast Guard directors general[edit]

Nominator(s): Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail)

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I am nominating this article for A-Class review. This is currently a B-class list article. I have furnished the prose and list with required references where ever required. As a next step, I hope to take this to A-class status. The article has considerable importance as it provides information about the head of one of the major paramilitary forces of India. Please suggest improvements regarding citations, style, structure etc. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 12:14, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments: G'day, thanks for your efforts on this list. Per the usual caveat, lists aren't where my talents (if I have any) lie. Still, I have a few suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 13:14, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I made some c/e like changes, please check you are happy with them and adjust as desired
  • I wonder if perhaps this should be titled "List of Indian Coast Guard directors general" or something similar.
This is not just a list, but about the position and in that, the list of appointees has been in included.
G'day, ok thanks for clarifying. To be honest, though, I think you would be better off just making it a list of appointees because in its current form that is what most of the content is about. While I think that what you have is sufficient to put the list into context, if you are wanting to make this into an article on the position then, IMO, you need to expand it considerably. Currently there is only one subsection, which is the list of appointees, but for an article on the position it would need more than that. AustralianRupert (talk) 09:26, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So what is the title you would suggest, "List of Indian Coast Guard director generals", "List of Director Generals of the Indian Coast Guard" etc.?Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 11:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"List of Indian Coast Guard directors general" would be my suggestion as the plural of director general is directors general, not director generals. [1]. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:28, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AustralianRupert: Done. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 12:37, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • the References section should be sorted alphabetically
  • link Indian Coast Guard on first mention
  • the date of the first appoinment (19 August 1978) probably should be mentioned in the prose, as should the first holder (Kamath), as well as the fact that they report to the Minister of Defence and are appointed by the Government of India
  • I would avoid using post nominals in text
  • this sentence probably needs a ref: "Besides the distinction of being the first three-star rank officer of the Indian Coast Guard, Rajendra Singh is the first Coast Guard officer to become the Director General."
  • inconsistent dates: "Singh succeeded Vice Admiral HCS Bisht on 29 February 2016" (prose), "since March 1, 2016" (infobox), and "29 March 2016" (table)
  • I wonder if the correlation between FOC-in-C and HAG could be clarified in the note. For instance, which is higher?
@AustralianRupert: Done, please have a look. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 05:38, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Your changes look good, thanks. I've made a couple of tweaks, but still have a concern about the scope. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:26, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AustralianRupert:Thanks for the edits. Regarding the scope, that is all I can obtain from the book and web sources. That is all of it. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 11:43, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:57, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • This is in pretty good shape now that it is a list. I agree with Rupert that it would need a fair amount more information if it was an article about the position. It would need information about the development of the role alongside the development of the ICG as well as notable impacts that those filling the role have had.
  • Initials for people should be per MOS:INITIALS, ie with a full stop and a space for each one
  • I suggest putting the citations in numerical order ie [9][5][10] as [5][9][10], and being consistent with the placement of notes with citations (ie either [2][b] or [3][c], as notes merely modify the information covered by each citation.
  • In the lead, the "FOC-in-C's Scale" and similar information doesn't mean anything to the casual reader, so I suggest you place it in a note explaining it more fully rather than in parentheses. It is currently assuming information the average reader doesn't have.
  • The images appear to be properly licensed.
@Peacemaker67: Please see the improvements so far. As for your first point, this is the maximum information obtainable about the position, if need content about formation of Indian Coast Guard, about the committee that was appointed, that subsequently led to formation of this position, can be added. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 07:35, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Given this remains as a list rather than an article, my comments have been suitably addressed. Supporting. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:46, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, this is a list. Thank you PM. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 08:46, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Dudley

  • "Later served as the Commander-in-Chief and FOC-in-C of the Andaman and Nicobar and the Eastern Naval Commands respectively" I suggest "Later served as the Commander-in-Chief of the Andaman and Nicobar Command and FOC-in-C of the Eastern Naval Command." reads better.
  • Ref 3 is a dead link.
  • Tmh, Tmh (2007), Tmh General Knowledge Manual, Tata McGraw-Hill Education, ISBN 978-0-07-061999-9. This is an odd ref. Tmh is Tata McGraw-Hill, so giving the author as Tmh, Tmh is wrong.
  • Is there a reason that DGs serve for such short periods?
  • List looks OK. Just a few nit picks. Dudley Miles (talk) 21:06, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Dudley Miles: Addressed the first three comments. Regarding the fourth one, there is no specific reason, may be sometimes this position is assigned at the pinnacle of their career, just before the retirement, that may be the case. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 03:07, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A good list. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:17, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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