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Promoted EyeSerenetalk 15:45, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nguyen Chanh Thi[edit]

Nominator(s): YellowMonkey (new photo poll)
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A South Vietnamese general who was involved in repeated coup attempts in the 1960s. The final part of his military career was a power struggled against Nguyen Cao Ky and sparked a pseudocivil war and he was finally exiled to the US in mid 1966 after Ky won YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 08:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments:
    • no dab links, ext links all work, alt text is present (no action required);
    • images appear to be appropriately licenced (no action required);
    • in the Early life section, I think you should explicitly state the date that Thi was born, otherwise the reader has to scroll back up to the lead or the infobox to find it out;
    • there appears to be a mixture of US and British English, for example "organised" and "organized";
      • Good work with this, you picked up a few that I completely missed. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 05:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • you have used different date formats, for example "21 October" and then "November 14" (in the 1964 coups with Nguyen Khanh section), I think that you should be consistent in the format used;
    • in the Exile section, in the last sentence, I think you should explicitly state the date that Thi passed away, as it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the prose;
    • Citation # 80 (International Herald Tribune) needs an access date;
    • In the References section, some of the ISBNs have hyphens and some don't, I think these should be consistent;
    • In the References section, the titles of the works should be capitalised per WP:MOSCAPS#Composition titles, e.g "Intervention : how America became involved in Vietnam" should be "Intervention: How America Became Involved in Vietnam". AustralianRupert (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think I've addressed these. Many thanks YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: all my concerns have been addressed. AustralianRupert (talk) 05:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- apart from a little typo, I couldn't really see any issues -- well done! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments - another excellent article in my opinion, a couple of minor points about the prose though:
    • The first sentence in the lead seems a little awkward: specifically "Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) of South Vietnam", maybe reword to say he was a "South Vietnamese officer of the Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN)" or something similar?;
    • Likewise the second last sentence in the lead: "and criticizing US war expansion policy in Vietnam", which could possibly be reworded as: "and criticizing US policy to expand the war in Vietnam"
    • The last word in the last sentence of the 'Diem era' section could be changed to "ensued", instead of "eventuated";
    • The first sentence in the 2nd last para of the '1965 coup against Nguyen Khanh' is a little akward: "which had aims of military expansion, which was opposed by the Buddhist protestors.";
      • Butting in, suggest "which had aims of military expansion and was opposed by the Buddhist protestors." Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Likewise the middle para in the 'Buddhist Uprising of 1966' section: "led to the Buddhist Uprising, led by the "Struggle Movement"." Anotherclown (talk) 11:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done I think YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 03:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Looks good, striking all comments. Well done. Anotherclown (talk) 11:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment—A1 citation presentation:
    References: Kahin, George McT. (1986). Is his middle name really McT, wow? Logevall, Fredrik (2006). Not going to push you to include the page span of the contained work.
    Short citations: The newspaper articles, did they have page numbers? Same with Time.
    You're going to hate this: Brush, Peter (April 2005). 404s. Fifelfoo (talk) 02:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can get logevall. No his real name is not McT. but that is how he credited in the book, eg John R. Smith and all that. Unfortunately the online newspapers and time archive did not have a page number, but with with Time there are usually only 10 articles and it's allowable to identify by chapters, subarticles etc ... Brush has a copy on his own website, so fixable YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 02:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No worries wrt pages. Ah, an Alan Smithee / Incorrect Title page! May I say how continuing glad I am of these RVN articles? Fifelfoo (talk) 03:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed Brush. The website was reindexed....done Logevall YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 08:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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