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Feb.8 in 1445 was a Monday ! :-( That means the first Pancake Day should be February 9, 1445.-- PFHLai 20:10, 2004 Aug 31 (UTC)

Why is the destruction of Dresden (1945) not included? The Allies killed 200 000 people on this day, according to Soviet authorities.

Why ? The simple reason is that the anniversary of the bombing of Dresden is Feb.14th, not Feb.8th ! I'm getting there, just not there yet .... Fine. I'll do it now if someone is so anxious .... :-> -- PFHLai 06:21, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 14. -- PFHLai 06:38, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)

John von Neumann[edit]

Feb 8 2007 specifically is a very interesting anniversary. It's the 50th anniversary of John von Neumann's death, and he left a secret box [1] with unknown contents to be opened today. His daughter Marina has the box. However, there is a recent sketchy report that the box, mentioned by various sources, was somehow not his. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JonathanHF (talk • contribs).

Basically under the Selected anniversaries editing guidelines, births and deaths can only be used on centennials. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 10:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

No longer Ineligible (unused): Orangeburg massacre
Omitted: Richard Mentor Johnson, William D. Boyce, Operation Lam Son 719, Denis Sassou Nguesso
Included: Dawes Act (first appearance), The Birth of a Nation (2nd appearance, last in 2010), Stasi (first appearance), Eastern Air Lines Flight 663 (first appearance)
Repeats: 2010 Salang avalanches (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:16, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Japanese in Hawaii (maintenance)
Omitted: Dawes Act; The Birth of a Nation; Stasi (ineligible—maintenance); Eastern Air Lines Flight 663; 2010 Salang avalanches
Included: Prešeren Day (4th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Mary, Queen of Scots (9th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Devil's Footprints (3rd appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Sydney Riot of 1879 (first appearance); Orangeburg massacre (first appearance); Denis Sassou Nguesso (7th appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 19:36, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Omitted: Mary, Queen of Scots; Devil's Footprints; Sydney Riot of 1879; Orangeburg massacre
Included: Leiden University (first appearance); Standard time (first appearance; blurb previously featured Sandford Fleming, which is currently ineligible, and is making its 3rd appearance, last in 2010); William D. Boyce/Boy Scouts of America (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2011); Hollywood Walk of Fame (3rd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: Denis Sassou Nguesso (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Dawes Act
Omitted: Leiden University (ineligible—maintenance); William D. Boyce/Boy Scouts of America; Hollywood Walk of Fame; Denis Sassou Nguesso
Included: Mary, Queen of Scots (10th appearance, last in 2013); The Birth of a Nation (3rd appearance, last in 2012; 100th anniversary); Eastern Air Lines Flight 663 (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 50th anniversary); 2010 Salang avalanches (3rd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Standard time (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:04, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace[edit]

February 8, 2016, is the 20th anniversary of the publication of John Perry Barlow's A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace. This could be a suitable item to feature. (Disclosure: Barlow is a founder and member of the board of directors of my employer, the Electronic Frontier Foundation).
Sample text: 1996 – American political activist John Perry Barlow publishes A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace in Davos, Switzerland. Schoen (talk) 05:22, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- The article is a little short, so I'm hesitant to include it. —howcheng {chat} 03:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, I have to agree that Wikipedia's coverage of this topic is kind of limited! Thanks for considering it. Schoen (talk) 02:35, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Omitted: Mary, Queen of Scots; The Birth of a Nation; Eastern Air Lines Flight 663; 2010 Salang avalanches
Included: The Earl of Essex Rebellion (first appearance); Richard Mentor Johnson (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Orangeburg massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Denis Sassou Nguesso (9th appearance, last in 2014)
Repeats: Standard time (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:51, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can we include the Devil's footprints next year? --BorgQueen (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, why not. —howcheng {chat} 17:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): NASDAQ
Omitted: Prešeren Day (ineligible—maintenance); The Earl of Essex Rebellion; Richard Mentor Johnson; Standard time (ineligible—maintenance); Orangeburg massacre; Denis Sassou Nguesso
Included: Mary, Queen of Scots (11th appearance, last in 2015); Devil's Footprints (4th appearance, last in 2013); William D. Boyce (4th appearance, last in 2013; blurb previously also featured Boy Scouts of America, which is currently ineligible); Hollywood Walk of Fame (6th appearance, last in 2014); 2010 Salang avalanches (4th appearance, last in 2015)

—howcheng {chat} 07:46, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Orangeburg massacre (maintenance); Denis Sassou Nguesso (maintenance)
New articles (unused): A. Chandranehru
Omitted: Mary, Queen of Scots; Devil's Footprints; William D. Boyce; Hollywood Walk of Fame
Included: Essex's Rebellion (2nd appearance, last in 2016); Sydney Riot of 1879 (2nd appearance, last in 2013); The Birth of a Nation (4th appearance, last in 2015); NASDAQ (5th appearance, last in 2008); Muhammad ibn Tughj al-Ikhshid (first appearance); Jules Verne (first appearance); Iris Murdoch (first appearance)
Repeats: 2010 Salang avalanches (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:53, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Omitted: Essex's Rebellion; The Birth of a Nation; NASDAQ; 2010 Salang avalanches; Muhammad ibn Tughj al-Ikhshid; Jules Verne; Iris Murdoch
Included: Mary, Queen of Scots (12th appearance, last in 2017); Richard Mentor Johnson (3rd appearance, last in 2016); William D. Boyce/Boy Scouts of America (Boyce: 5th appearance, last in 2017; BSA: 4th appearance, last in 2014; was previously ineligible); Eastern Air Lines Flight 663 (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Guercino (first appearance); John Ruskin (first appearance; 200th birthday); A. Chandranehru (first appearance)
Repeats: Sydney Riot of 1879 (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:48, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Omitted: Richard Mentor Johnson; Sydney Riot of 1879; William D. Boyce/Boy Scouts of America; Eastern Air Lines Flight 663; Guercino; John Ruskin; A. Chandranehru
Included: Universal Time (3rd appearance, last in 2015; previously appeared on October 22; blurb previously featured Sandford Fleming, which remains ineligible); Hollywood Walk of Fame (7th appearance, last in 2017; 60th anniversary); 2010 Salang avalanches (6th appearance, last in 2018; 10th anniversary); Daniele Barbaro (first appearance); Kate Chopin (first appearance); Walther Bothe (first appearance)
Repeats: Mary, Queen of Scots (2nd consecutive appearance, 13 total)

—howcheng {chat} 18:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

Deleted: Devil's Footprints (moved to February 9)
Moved to Ineligible: The Birth of a Nation (date not certain); Nasdaq (maintenance)
Omitted: Mary, Queen of Scots; Universal Time; Daniele Barbaro; Kate Chopin; Walther Bothe
Included: Essex's Rebellion (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Richard Mentor Johnson (4th appearance, last in 2019); Sydney Riot of 1879 (4th appearance, last in 2019); Gerolamo Emiliani (first appearance); Franz Marc (first appearance); Ernest Titterton (first appearance)
Repeats: Hollywood Walk of Fame (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total); 2010 Salang avalanches (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:17, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

New articles (ineligible): Valerie Thomas (POTD on 2022-02-01)
Omitted: Richard Mentor Johnson; Hollywood Walk of Fame; Gerolamo Emiliani; Franz Marc; Ernest Titterton
Included: William D. Boyce (Boyce: 6th appearance; BSA: 5th; both last in 2019); Eastern Air Lines Flight 663 (4th appearance, last in 2019); Helen of Anjou (first appearance); Kate Chopin (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Peter Kropotkin (first appearance)
Repeats: Essex's Rebellion (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Sydney Riot of 1879 (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total); 2010 Salang avalanches (3rd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:24, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]