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3rd opinion desired at List of Starship Launches

Talk:List of Starship launches#Recent Edits

1. Disagreement about validity of sources.

2. Disagreement about whether to include launch names in payload column of table when there is no payload. Redacted II (talk) 16:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Landing burns

Do we have an article on the topic of landing burns? F9 booster; lunar; Martian; Superheavy — there would seem to be a fair bit of commonality among them. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 22:21, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

VTVL? Wehwalt (talk) 01:42, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, VTVL is close. Looking at it though it doesn't seem to discuss e.g. hover landings vs. 'suicide burn' landings. And for lunar landings (in vacuum) it doesn't address the difference between the braking burn phase (to lose orbital velocity) and a final horizontal descent phase. At Moon landing the 'Transition from direct ascent landings to lunar orbit operations' section and the 'Scientific background' section talk about some of this, but those sections are totally unreferenced. Sigh. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 23:01, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

There have been aircraft equipped with rockets for zero length landing and/or zero length launch as well. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 02:59, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the boundary between aeronautics and aerospace is blurry regarding rocket assisted landings for winged vehicles. Is there a representative design for this? The C-130 for Operation Credible Sport? Or maybe something Russian? (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 23:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Substantial omissions in edit summaries

An editor has failing to mention content removals in edit summaries. These edits added substantially to article wordcounts, so it is not obvious from the page history that content has been removed.

I'd like to be clear that these content removals were done among genuinely useful edits, and I've talked to the editor about the purpose of edit summaries.

The removed content seems to be stuff the PRC doesn't like, and a substantial portion reflects on national space programs. I lack the expertise needed to parse the nationalism in statements about space programs. I'm not sure how far back the problem goes; I'd think not more than some dozens of edits are affected.

As these removals of controversial content haven't had the level of peer scrutiny that they would likely have had had they been correctly described, could these edits get some scrutiny now, please? Thanks! HLHJ (talk) 19:34, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Starship full stack flight 4 media

Currently Starship flight test 4 does not have any media except a mission patch. It would be nice if a launch photo or video could be added -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)