Category talk:Emigrants from the Kingdom of Bavaria to the United Kingdom

This name is good

If we drop the Kingdom of Bavaria from this name it will not be obvious that this is meant to be limited to people who left the kingdom of Bavaria. I have tried with the Bavarian emigrants to the United States to limit it to people who left the Kingdom of Bavaria, and to remove those people who were leaving far more recently, such as multiple people who left in the second half of the 20th-century. At issue is that Bavaria the article is an article on the state as it exists today. If someone emigrates from Germany to the United Kingdom today, or did so in 1992, we do not want to have them end up in Bavarian emigrants to the United Kingdom, just because they lived in Munich before they Germany, or even if they lived in Munich all their life before leaving Germany. This is only justifiable during periods of time when Bavaria is a distinct state, with distinct political relations with others. Emigration is at heart a movement from one political unit to another, and so emigrant categories need to be tied to those politcal units. The term Bavarian is not primarily used for residents of the Kingdom of Bavaria, to exclusion of those who lived in Bavaria when it was fully part of larger political entities, so we need to make clear what is meant when we have Bavarian in the name. The actual expericne of people putting people who left after World War II in categories with just the Bavarian name, which is not at all what is meant to be covered in this category, shows why we do not want to use the Bavarian name alone. The article in question is Kingdom of Bavaria and we have Category:People from the Kingdom of Bavaria which this is a well named child of. It is really the other emigration categories that need to be renamed, not this one.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:39, 5 October 2023 (UTC)