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'Warrawee' 1932, a pink hybrid tea with good scent, flowering all season. Photographed in autumn at the State Rose Garden, Werribee Park, Victoria.
'Lady Edgeworth David' 1939, Fitzhardinge's palest pink hybrid tea named after her friend and Warrawee neighbour. Photographed at Maddingley Park, Victoria.
Elegant detail: thorns and leaves of 'Lady Edgeworth David'.
'Prudence' 1938. Ever-flowering climber named after Fitzhardinge's second daughter. Damask scent.
Elegant detail: thorns and leaves of 'Prudence', 1938.
'Lubra' 1938; classic hybrid tea shape, red-black on the inside, crimson reverse, superb scent: the height of 1930s chic. In the Centenary Rose Garden at Morwell, Victoria.

Olive Fitzhardinge (1881–1956) was an Australian rose breeder, the first to patent her work. Her four surviving roses are held in Australian collections.[1] Her roses were well received in the 1930s but after the Second World War favoured styles of roses changed significantly.

Life[edit]

Olive Rose McMaster was born in 1881 at Warialda, northern New South Wales.[2] She was brought up in the country at Moree.[3][4] She was the elder daughter of Colin James McMaster (1853–1930) and Sarah Ross (1855–1927). Her father was for twenty years Chief Commissioner and chairman of the Western Lands Board, which administered land leases in the whole western third of NSW.[5][6]

Olive was educated by a governess at home and boarded 1897–1898 at Presbyterian Ladies' College, Croydon.[4][7]

She and her sister Dorothy Jean (1884–1966), later Mrs C.W.D. Conacher of Crona, Warrawee,[8] were influenced by the Arts and Crafts movement, and through it Victorian Medievalism. They collected medieval objects, dress fabrics and tapestry.[9] They cultivated quiet Country Life interiors furnished with old things and lit with tallow candles in medieval candlesticks.[10][11] Exteriors would show the luxuriant informality of Gertrude Jekyll's Roses for English Gardens.[12][13] Later Olive was to breed roses to look well in candlelight.[14]"A Rose for Ladies – "Warrawee"". Townsville Daily Bulletin. Qld.: National Library of Australia. 7 December 1942. p. 4. Retrieved 6 January 2015.</ref> Her second daughter was married in a "mediaeval gown".[15]

It lent depth to Olive's interest that she married into a pre-Conquest, west of England family ennobled by Henry II in the twelfth century. In 1909 she married Dr Hardinge Clarence Fitzhardinge (1878–1958), a Macquarie Street dental surgeon.[16] He was the son of M.A.H. Fitzhardinge, a prominent Sydney solicitor from the second generation of the well-known NSW legal family founded in the 1840s by W.G.A. Fitzhardinge.[17][18][19][20]

Hardinge and Olive lived at Cremorne Point for some years but in 1917 bought 1.5 acres (0.61 ha) with a northerly aspect and good volcanic soil at Warrawee 21 km northwest of Sydney.[7] As all North Shore suburbs with aboriginal names, Warrawee was the name of a railway station which became attached to the surrounding suburb.[21] Warrawee had developed in the 1900s as an exclusive residential district with no shops, offices, post office, public school, churches or through roads.[22][23] All the blocks were kept to between one and four acres and the form of houses tightly controlled.[22][24] The Fitzhardinges had Bridge End at No. 1 Warrawee Avenue, where they built a spreading single-storey house and established "quite a famous garden".[5][7][25][26] As well-to-do citizens of the Empire they followed London manners and taste: in a world of "lounge" rooms they kept to a drawing-room.[27]

The Fitzhardinges had daughters Jean Mary Hardinge Dean (1910–2009)[28][29] and Olive Prudence Bryant (1912–2001)[30][31] and sons Colin Hardinge Fitzhardinge (1914–1998)[32] and Brian Forbes Fitzhardinge, who died at fourteen in 1932.[33][34]

Olive Fitzhardinge began to breed roses at Bridge End about 1920.[35] Because she was wealthy and related to prominent people in the history of New South Wales, her activities as a rose breeder were unusually well reported.[36] In fact society and rose-breeding themes were closely intertwined. The Sydney Morning Herald on 16 May 1934 reported the wedding of the Fitzhardinges' daughter. Five of Mrs Fitzhardinge's 12 roses were named after those present, six if one includes 'Warrawee'.[37]

A gleaming golden girdle added a note of colour to the mediaeval gown of white velvet worn by Miss Prudence Hardinge Fitzhardinge ['Prudence'] for her wedding last night to Mr. Bowen Bartlett Bryant, which took place at St. John's Church, Wahroonga … the two bridesmaids, the Misses Jean Fitzhardinge ['Plain Jane'], sister of the bride, and Peggy Prell (Goulburn) … At Bridge End, Warrawee … a marquee was erected on the lawn for the wedding breakfast … Mrs. Fitzhardinge received her guests wearing a gown of silver grey lace and a black velvet toque, and carrying a posy of shaded berries … Among the guests were … Mr. and Mrs. L. Bice (Inverell) ['Kitty Bice'], Lady David ['Lady Edgeworth David'] … Mr. and Mrs. C. E. Prell (Goulburn) ['Mrs C.E. Prell'] … [15]

Joseph Beresford Grant, who had used his money to guarantee the exclusiveness of Warrawee, was also a guest.[22]

Mrs Fitzhardinge planted many trees in public spaces, including the long avenue of the Pymble Ladies College (where her daughters were pupils)[38] and many of the majestic tree groupings at the Avondale Golf Club (where she was a member).[7][39][40]

In 1937 Dr Fitzhardinge, Olive and their surviving son moved to Wongalong, a sheep and cattle property at Mandurama (pr. ManDOOrama) on the Central Tablelands of NSW.[7][41][42] Despite her intentions, Mrs Fitzhardinge bred no more roses,[7] though she continued to grow them in "drought, many high winds, and mineralised water."[43] She did experiment with breeding improved geraniums.[44] She died in 1956.[45] Her son Colin, married to the writer Joan Phipson, inherited Wongalong and her rose 'Warrawee' was still growing there in 1980.[7][32]

Rose breeding[edit]

Fitzhardinge's roses were hybrid teas. She registered twelve between 1932 and 1939.[5][46] Except for 'Beatrice Berkeley' and 'Plain Jane' they were released for sale through Hazlewood Brothers' nursery. She was a friend of the Hazlewoods and of the rose breeders Alister Clark[47] and George Knight.[5][7][48] She told the Sydney Morning Herald in 1931 she had bred 12 satisfactory roses in ten years, so it is possible that her rose breeding (as opposed to testing and registration) had been completed between 1921 and 1930.[35] Certainly all the plant material she bred from had been released by 1921 (see the list of her rose parents below). She bred twenty thousand seedlings in ten years, ten times the average number bred by Frank Riethmuller in Turramurra after the Second World War.[49] Olive Fitzhardinge described herself as an "amateur hybridiser"[50] but behind a domestic facade she operated on a commercial scale. She knew people who ran big pasture and stock breeding businesses in country NSW and the Northern Territory.[51]

Australia had no Plant Breeder's Rights Act at that time.[52] The only way to secure rights was to take out an overseas patent.[49] Fitzhardinge is the only Australian breeder before the 1960s known to have done so, in her case an American patent on 'Warrawee.'[14] To that extent she had commercial ambitions for her work, unlike her friend Alister Clark or North Shore successor Frank Riethmuller.

'Warrawee' especially received enthusiastic press notices, emphasising the ladylike quality of the rose, said to be due to its being bred by a lady.[14] At the same time the rose was seen as an Australian nationalist venture into world markets.[53]

But the predicted commercial triumph of her roses did not occur, though 'Warrawee' was introduced in England and America in 1935.[37] Her shrub roses had been modelled on 'Ophelia' as the ideal rose; after the war a shift in taste took place to roses modelled on 'Peace.'[54] Her climbing roses were huge plants best suited to prewar gardens. Even to post-war enthusiasts Fitzhardinge's roses seemed under-bred. For instance, 'Sirius' 1939, a dark red climber, was criticised for lack of vigor by those who still grew it.[55] Moreover, nearly all her roses have very double flowers which in humid climates can rot before opening.[56]

Patrick Grant, a fellow member of the NSW Rose Society, had more success in between-wars overseas markets with his 'Salmon Spray' and 'Golden Dawn', a rose destined, like hers, to be outmoded by 'Peace'.[57]

Ten years after her death, her roses had nearly been forgotten. The Australian registrar of roses and president of the National Rose Society of Victoria was A.S. Thomas. The 1967 edition of his Better Roses prints a list of eighty "highly prized cultivars" from Australia and New Zealand. Twenty of them are roses by Alister Clark. Seven are by Frank Riethmuller. Only 'Lubra' and 'Warrawee' are by Olive Fitzhardinge.[58]

Rose names[edit]

  • 'Beatrice Berkeley' had an unknown dedicatee. But the Fitzhardinges were interconnected with the Berkeley family and the Barons Berkeley from the twelfth century.
  • 'Kitty Bice' was Catherine, Mrs Luke Bice, an Inverell friend of Olive Fitzhardinge.[15]
  • 'Warrawee' was the name of the sequestered suburb and society in which the Fitzhardinges lived.
  • 'Captain Bligh' (later Admiral Bligh) was an early governor of New South Wales (1806–1808) after he became the object of mutiny on HMS Bounty in 1789.
  • 'Lady Gowrie' (Zara Hore-Ruthven) was the wife of Lord Gowrie (later the Earl of Gowrie) who was in turn Governor of South Australia, Governor of New South Wales (1935–1936), and Governor-General of Australia. Convention required the Governor to be patron of the NSW Rose Society, and the Society to name a rose after his wife.
  • 'Mrs C.E. Prell', born Caroline Ivy Chave, was the wife of Gundowringa grazier Charles Ernest Prell and president of the Goulburn CWA. Prell was a famous investor and ideas man for improving pastures and stock in dry country. There was a Prell Scheme for introducing young English migrants to the land. The Prells were friends of Olive's father, the Fitzhardinges and their daughter Prudence.[15][59]
  • 'Lubra' does not refer to any particular aboriginal maiden. The name alludes to its being a darker and more elegant descendant of Alister Clark's 'Black Boy.'
  • 'Prudence' was Mrs Fitzhardinge's second daughter.
  • 'Plain Jane' was probably her first daughter, Jean Mary.
  • 'Governor Phillip' was Arthur Phillip, the first governor (1787–1792) of the colony of New South Wales.
  • 'Sirius' was HMS Sirius (1786), flagship of the First Fleet sent to colonise New South Wales in 1787.
  • 'Lady Edgeworth David' was Caroline Martha (Cara) Mallett (1856-1951), a prominent social campaigner, the wife of Sir Edgeworth David and a personal friend of the Fitzhardinges.[60]

List of Fitzhardinge roses[5][61][edit]

Name Date Type Colour Petallage Seed parent Pollen parent Extant
Beatrice Berkeley[62] 1932 Hybrid tea shrub Orange-salmon[36] unknown Cupid (1914) Padre (1920) Lost
Kitty Bice[63] 1932 Hybrid tea climber Dark bright pink Semi-double Ophelia climbing (1920) Lady Waterlow (1902) Lost
Warrawee[37] 1932 Hybrid tea shrub Pink 30 Rev. F. Page-Roberts (1921) Padre (1920) Yes
Captain Bligh[64] 1934 Hybrid tea shrub Pink Very double Gustav Grünewald (1902) Betty Uprichard (1920) Lost
Lady Gowrie[65] 1938 Hybrid tea climber Yellow unknown Sunburst climbing (1914) Rev. F. Page-Roberts (1921) Lost
Lubra[66] 1938 Hybrid tea shrub Dark red 60 Ophelia (1912) Black Boy (Clark) (1919) Yes
Mrs C.E. Prell[67] 1938 Hybrid tea shrub Red blend Double Gustav Grünewald (1902) Betty Uprichard (1920) Lost
Plain Jane[68] 1938 Hybrid tea shrub unknown unknown unknown unknown Lost
Prudence[69] 1938 Hybrid tea climber Neyron pink 40–60 Warrawee (1932) Souvenir de Claudius Pernet (1920) Yes
Governor Phillip[70] 1939 Hybrid tea climber Ruby red 100 Ophelia seedling Black Boy (1919) Lost
Lady Edgeworth David[71] 1939 Hybrid tea shrub Malmaison pink 60 Seedling Betty Uprichard (1920) Yes
Sirius[72] 1939 Hybrid tea climber Cherry red Very double Seedling Lubra (1938) Lost

Where the roses can be seen[edit]

  • The National Rose Collection created by David Ruston at Renmark in South Australia has 'Warrawee,' 'Lady Edgeworth David' and 'Lubra.'[1]
  • The Victoria State Rose Garden at Werribee Park has 'Warrawee', 'Lady Edgeworth David', 'Lubra' and 'Prudence'.
  • The Nieuwesteeg Heritage Rose Garden at Maddingley Park, Bacchus Marsh, Victoria has 'Warrawee' and 'Lady Edgeworth David'.
  • The Morwell Centenary Rose garden in Gippsland has 'Warrawee' and 'Lubra.'
  • The Roseto Carla Fineschi near Arezzo, Italy has 'Warrawee.'
  • The Roseraie de Val-du-Marne at l'Haÿ-les-Roses, 8 km south of Paris has 'Warrawee'.
  • The Europas-Rosarium at Sangerhausen in north east Germany has 'Warrawee.'
  • The National Plant Collections Register of significant Australian rose cultivars is held by John Nieuwesteeg at Yellingbo, Victoria. It contains 'Lady Edgeworth David', 'Prudence' and 'Warrawee' but access is by application only.[73]

Articles written by Fitzhardinge[edit]

  • Mrs O. R. Fitzthardinge, "Amateur hybridisation." Australian Rose Annual, 1932 p. 127.
  • Mrs O. R. Fitzthardinge, Mandurama, "'New Garden—New Roses." Australian Rose Annual, 1941 p. 58.

References[edit]

  1. ^ a b "Ruston's Roses - Australia's Largest Rose Garden and home to the National Rose Collection of Australia". www.rustonsroses.com. Archived from the original on 6 July 2010. Retrieved 12 March 2012.
  2. ^ BDM records for NSW online for the birth of Olive Rose MacMaster, retrieved 7 April 2012.
  3. ^ Australian Town and Country Journal, 2 April 1898, p. 35. retrieved from Trove 6 April 2012.
  4. ^ a b Presbyterian Ladies' College Croydon archive, thanks to Debby Cramer, supplied 16 April 2012.
  5. ^ a b c d e Cox, Peter (1999). Australian roses : roses and rose breeders of Australia. Hawthorn, Vic.: Bloomings Books. pp. 25–26. ISBN 1-876473-02-9.
  6. ^ "C.J. McMaster: death announced". Sydney Morning Herald. 5 August 1932. Retrieved 6 April 2012. Note the surname's spelling as McMaster not MacMaster.
  7. ^ a b c d e f g h Bryant, Olive Prudence (Mrs Fitzhardinge's second daughter) (1980). Heritage Roses in Australia. 2 (4): 2. {{cite journal}}: Missing or empty |title= (help) Text kindly supplied by Patricia Routley of HRIA.
  8. ^ "Obituary". The Sydney Morning Herald. National Library of Australia. 31 December 1937. p. 6. Retrieved 7 January 2015.
  9. ^ "Tape&try". The Sydney Morning Herald. National Library of Australia. 12 July 1934. p. 17 Supplement: Women's Supplement. Retrieved 6 January 2015.
  10. ^ Aslet, Clive (2011). The arts and crafts country house : from the archives of Country Life. London: Aurum. pp. 7–32. ISBN 9781845136802.
  11. ^ "Candle Sticks". The Sydney Morning Herald. National Library of Australia. 24 January 1935. p. 17 Supplement: Women's Supplement. Retrieved 6 January 2015.
  12. ^ Jekyll, Gertrude and Edward Mawley (1902). Roses for English Gardens (First ed.). London: Country Life.
  13. ^ See the photo captioned "A Picturesque Corner of Warrawee" in "The Season of Roses". Sydney Mail and New South Wales Advertiser. NSW: National Library of Australia. 11 November 1908. p. 1258. Retrieved 1 March 2015.
  14. ^ a b c "A Rose for Ladies – "Warrawee"". Townsville Daily Bulletin. Qld.: National Library of Australia. 7 December 1942. p. 4. Retrieved 4 April 2012.
  15. ^ a b c d "White Velvet". The Sydney Morning Herald. National Library of Australia. 16 May 1934. p. 7. Retrieved 2 February 2015.
  16. ^ BDM data for NSW online, Fitzhardinge–MacMaster marriage 1909 Archived 2 February 2014 at the Wayback Machine, retrieved 7 April 2012.
  17. ^ "Obituary: Mr. C.J. McMaster". Sydney Morning Herald. 6 August 1930. Retrieved 13 April 2012.
  18. ^ "Obituary: Mr. M.A.H. Fitzhardinge". Sydney Morning Herald. 31 August 1935. Retrieved 24 April 2012.
  19. ^ Fitzhardinge-Seton, Peter C. "Fitzhardinge, William George Augustus (1810–1884)". Australian Dictionary of Biography online. Retrieved 25 April 2012. W.G.A. Fitzhardinge had nine sons, five of them NSW lawyers. He was a descendant of the Earls of Berkeley and of Earl Fitzhardinge.
  20. ^ "Rowed to Work: Mr MH Fitzhardinge's reminiscences". Sydney Morning Herald. 31 August 1935. Retrieved 24 April 2012.
  21. ^ Thorne, Les G; Jillett, Leslie (1968), North Shore, Sydney from 1788 to today, Angus and Robertson, retrieved 14 October 2012
  22. ^ a b c Paul Davis, November 2010, Kuring-Gai Potential Heritage Conservation Areas North Review "HCA 23 – Warrawee" retrieved 16 April 2012.
  23. ^ Knox Grammar, attended by the Fitzhardinge boys, was founded at Earlston, a Warrawee property across the railway line, in 1923, senior school 1924.
  24. ^ Johnson, John. "North Shore Houses" (PDF). State Library of NSW, compiled for the Upper North Shore Architects' Network and the Institute of Architects. Retrieved 25 April 2012. See especially p. 27.
  25. ^ The present two-storey house at Bridge End was built in 1939, so was not built by the Fitzhardinges. The eastern half-acre of their block has been hived off to form another property.
  26. ^ The Sydney phone directory for 1923 shows Mrs Fitzhardinge's parents living across the railway line in Heydon Avenue, her sister Dorothy Jean, Mrs C.W.D. Conacher just behind her house at Crona in Pibrac Avenue.
  27. ^ "A Warrawee Meeting". Country Life Stock and Station Journal. Sydney: National Library of Australia. 18 March 1924. p. 2. Retrieved 7 January 2015.
  28. ^ "NSW BMD record for Jean M Fitzhardinge".
  29. ^ Ryerson Index accessed 26 April 2012.
  30. ^ NSW BDM records for Bryant-Fitzhardinge Archived 2 February 2014 at the Wayback Machine.
  31. ^ Ryerson Index accessed 26 April 2012
  32. ^ a b Robert Bolton and Elizabeth Thurston, "A country to write home about", Sydney Morning Herald, 19 April 2003; obituary.
  33. ^ "Deaths: Fitzhardinge". Sydney Morning Herald. 23 February 1932. Retrieved 24 April 2012.
  34. ^ The opening of memorial gates at Knox Grammar in memory of her son, Brian is the only known occasion on which Mrs Fitzhardinge's photo appeared in the press: Sydney Morning Herald, 16 June 1993, p.14, retrieved from Trove 7 April 2012.
  35. ^ a b Sydney Morning Herald, 30 January 1931 p.9. Retrieved from Trove 6 April 2012.
  36. ^ a b For instance, Sydney Morning Herald 18 October 1932 p.10. retrieved 6 April 2012.
  37. ^ a b c HelpMeFind. "'Warrawee' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  38. ^ Pymble Ladies College archive, thanks to Kim Collins, supplied 26 April 2012.
  39. ^ Avondale Golf Club Archived 31 March 2012 at the Wayback Machine retrieved 10 April 2012.
  40. ^ Sydney Morning Herald 11 June 1931 p.3. retrieved 15 April 2012.
  41. ^ The Fitzhardinges of Warrawee disappear from the Sydney phone directory for 1937 but reappear in the country phone directory for Mandurama as Fitzhardinge H.C. of Wongalong.
  42. ^ "Mandurama". The Carcoar Chronicle. NSW: National Library of Australia. 9 April 1943. p. 3. Retrieved 7 January 2015.
  43. ^ Mrs O. R. Fitzthardinge, Mandurama, "'New Garden—New Roses." Australian Rose Annual, 1941 p.58.
  44. ^ "Beautiful Gardens". Daily Mercury. Mackay, Qld.: National Library of Australia. 25 March 1938. p. 9. Retrieved 7 March 2015.
  45. ^ Online BDM records for NSW for the death of Olive Rose Fitzhardinge[permanent dead link], retrieved 7 April 2012.
  46. ^ Mrs Fitzhardinge wrote in the Australian Rose Annual for 1932 of at least six other roses, all unnamed and unregistered. None has survived.
  47. ^ Clark, Alister (1932). "Rose Rambles in New Zealand". Australian Rose Annual: 42. "I was taken to Bridge End, Warrawee by Walter Hazlewood, where Mrs Fitzhardinge works out her problems with Rose crossing. I saw the new Rose, Warrawee, at a disadvantage, but it is obviously a very fine Rose of colour and petal."
  48. ^ Help Me Find reference for George Robert Knight, retrieved 11 April 2012.
  49. ^ a b Barnes, Dave (January 1959). "Gold medal for Titian rose". Your Garden: 21.
  50. ^ Fitzhardinge, Mrs O .R. (1932). "Amateur hybridisation". Australian Rose Annual: 127.
  51. ^ C. E. Prell had 7000 acres near Goulburn. Her brother-in-law, C.W.D. Conacher, was the Australian director of Vestey's.
  52. ^ Plant breeders' rights did not exist in Australia till the Plant Variety Rights Act of 1987, replaced now by the Act of 1994.
  53. ^ Townsville Daily Bulletin 7 December 1942 p.4 (retrieved from Trove 6 April 2012) gives the flavour and scotches any simple idea of prejudice against her. That is a late article, but it recycles material that appeared in the Western Mail, Thursday 11 June 1936 p.38. TA Stewart, The Argus 5 April 1938 p.18 strikes the same note.
  54. ^ Quest-Ritson, Charles & Brigid (2003). The Royal Horticultural Society encyclopedia of roses. London: Dorling Kindersley. ISBN 978-1-4053-3511-9. p.263: "The boom years of rose popularity in the 1950s and 1960s can single-handedly be attributed to 'Mme A. Meilland'", that is to 'Peace.'
  55. ^ See for instance Bisdee, S.J. (1953). Australian Rose Annual: 33. ISSN 1038-2801. {{cite journal}}: Missing or empty |title= (help).
  56. ^ "Get Your Roses Planted". The Sunday Herald. Sydney: National Library of Australia. 11 May 1952. p. 8. Retrieved 28 February 2015.
  57. ^ "Patrick Grant". Help Me Find. Retrieved 8 June 2013.
  58. ^ Thomas, A.S. (1969). Better roses (fifth ed.). Sydney: Angus and Robertson. pp. 90–91.
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  63. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Kitty Bice' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  64. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Captain Bligh' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  65. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Lady Gowrie' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  66. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Lubra' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  67. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Mrs. C.E. Prell' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  68. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Plain Jane' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  69. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Prudence' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  70. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Governor Phillip' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  71. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Lady Edgeworth David' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  72. ^ HelpMeFind. "'Sirius' Rose". www.helpmefind.com.
  73. ^ Kinsey, Melanie. "Interview with John Nieuwesteeg". Archived from the original on 2 December 2013. Retrieved 1 March 2013.
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