Talk:Śāntarakṣita

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We need something here about Shantarakshita's Yogacara-Madhyamika synthesis, a list of his works (Tattvasamgraha, Madhyamakalamkara) and his disciples (Kamalashila?)

Wasn't he also a Shentongpa? Zero sharp 01:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Caution. The referenced source of the sentence: "In the common accounts the local Bön tradition saw him as a threat and demanded he leave Tibet. He then advised the King to invite Padmasambhava to overcome the Bön resistance." (theosophytrust.org/tlodocs/articlesTeacher.php?d=Shantarakshita.htm&p=114) contains a Trojan (JS Redirector). Not sure what to do about this. I'm inclined to delete the whole sentence, reference and all, since the statement is not all that important and the referenced site seems a fairly poor quality source. Chris Fynn (talk) 14:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I certainly don't think we should include a reference that will end up infecting the reader's computer. I have replaced that reference with a citation needed tag. I don't have a particular opinion about whether that sentence could profitably be removed completely.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 15:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've now changed the sentence and reference to one in the Banerjee article which says something similar. Chris Fynn (talk) 16:04, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I question the statement: "His philosophic views were the main views in Tibet from the 8th century until it was mostly supplanted by Je Tsongkhapa's interpretation of Prasangika Madhyamaka in the 15th century." Since I think views of the Sakya tradition (and others) continued to be closer to those of Shantarakshita than of Tsongkhapa. Chris Fynn (talk) 15:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article currently says: "None of his original texts survived in Sanskrit, but many survived in translated Tibetan form and some in Chinese." This can't be right - didn't at least the Tattvasangraha survive in Sanskrit since it has been translated from Sanskrit to English by Jha (1939)? Chris Fynn (talk) 16:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a strong opinion about the Bön story, though it seems a common part of the history of his coming to Tibet and especially of Padmasambhava's arrival. I'll check for citations on the other two statements. I added them but I'm fairly sure those came from the 'adornment of the middle way' translators introduction. Could be those authors missed the Tattvasangraha, for example, or I misunderstood what they were saying. - Owlmonkey (talk) 19:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tattvasamgraha[edit]

I have secured by gracious Serendipity a complete digital copy of the Tattvasamgraha in romanized Sanskrit and in addition it is grammatically parsed and intent to make it available in Wikisource or in Wikibooks with an English translation. If anybody would like to work with me on this project contact me directly.
B9 hummingbird hovering (talkcontribs) 12:50, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No Chinese translation of this text is known. The text known in Cinese is another text bearing (partly) the same name, Tattvasamgraha Tantra. noychoH (talk) 15:45, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative account of the arrival of Śāntarakṣita[edit]

Wikipedians may find this page concerning an early account, of interest:

The Abbot, or Ironing out History’s Wrinkles

(The author works on the International Dunhuang Project at the British Library on the Dunhuang manuscripts) Fountain Posters (talk) 03:08, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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