Talk:1945 college football season

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All major selectors in 1945 (AP, Boand, Devold, Dunkel, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, Poling, Williamson) named Army #1[edit]

For any given college football season in the AP-Poll era, the national champion listed in the college football season infobox is the team(s) that was contemporaneously selected at the end of the season. By any yardstick, Army was the overwhelming consensus selection for the 1945 title. All nine major selectors that existed in 1945 (AP, Boand, Devold, Dunkel, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, Poling, Williamson) selected Army. Unanimous consensus happened in 1945; it cannot then un-happen (especially not 71 years later and especially not by self-selection, as Oklahoma State did in 2016). There was no vote in 2016 by the AFCA membership; the AFCA essentially began passing out candy upon request. According to the AFCA under its program, any school with a spider-thread claim between 1922 and 1949 can apply and receive an AFCA trophy.

Reality: There was never any contemporary doubt about the national champion in 1945, especially with the overwhelming superiority demonstrated by one team, Army, which has been called the greatest college football team of all-time. Jeff in CA (talk) 05:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Again, deleting and suppressing quotes from the AFCA itself in order to push an opinion article with unsourced claims that support your personal opinion is bad faith editing and edit warring. An AFCA quote explaining why a national championship was given to Oklahoma A&M should not be repeatedly suppressed due to it not supporting your personal opinion. 72.214.239.30 (talk) 21:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To add on to 72.214.239.30's argument, the source you cite has multiple unsourced claims, is not accurate (Texas A&M and TCU have both claimed retroactive AFCA championships, and comes across as heavily biased. In Wikipedia, biased opinion articles that are not factually accurate are not encouraged over source able quotes that are much more relevant and useful to the discussion at hand. 137.48.255.225 (talk) 12:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(1) The Oklahoman is the largest daily newspaper in Oklahoma and is the only regional daily that covers the Greater Oklahoma City area. It most definitely is a reliable source (WP:RS). You are being persistently disruptive (WP:DE) by deleting this 2017 citation time and time again because you don’t like its explanatory content regarding the team of which you are a fan.
(2) The passage copied from the CBS Sports website, of which you are apparently very fond, is never deleted. It merely appears in the citations, where all the other copied passages from cited sources in this article also appear.
(3) IP sockpuppets, like your other socks, are subject to WP:SOCK, Jeff in CA (talk) 14:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. Sigh. The opinion article from Barry Tramel is factually incorrect. The article being published under The Oklahoman does not change the fact that it’s an opinion article that contains incorrect information and does not belong on Wikipedia. I’ve already discussed how it’s not relevant to Wikipedia above, which you conveniently ignored. 2. Why do you get to decide where certain information is displayed? You and I both know no one is looking at citations in Wikipedia. Again, this is not Jeff in CA’s Wikipedia page to decide where certain information that fits his opinion goes. 3. Not at all a sock, I’ve just noticed your disruptive editing WP:DE and edit warring across multiple pages. 72.214.239.30 (talk) 01:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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