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July 13, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 27, 2012.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that astronauts Elliot See and Charles Bassett died when their plane crashed into the building where their spacecraft was being assembled?

Current status: Good article

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Resident Mario (talk · contribs) 04:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC) Nice, short article. ResMar 04:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

The first sentence should be reconfigured to the more standard "The X was when Y happened".
- Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The lead should mention the weather conditions at the time of the accident.
- Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

I don't think "Crashed into building" is an accident type in the way Engine Failure on Take-Off or Controlled flight into terrain would be.
- Went with Controlled flight into terrain. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The exact time of the crash is not mentioned past the infobox, and should be cited there.
- Added to article. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The crash

By the roof, do you mean the building roof, or the plane roof?
- Re-worded to make this unambiguous. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Investigation and aftermath

What do you mean by "predictably"?
- Delete word. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
All issues addressed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Flight Ceiling?[edit]

The description of the accident contains this sentence:

"Weather at Lambert Field in St. Louis was poor, with rain, snow, and fog, broken clouds at 800 feet (240 m) and a flight ceiling of 1,500 feet (460 m), requiring an instrument approach."

That doesn't make any sense. Flight ceiling is another term for "absolute ceiling" which is how high an aircraft is capable of level flying and in the T-38's case is 50,000. It is not dependent on weather. I believe the sentence author misinterpreted a reference in the source to cloud ceiling, which is the height of the base of the lowest cloud that covers more than half the sky.

I'm going to change the text and the link. --2601:602:9A00:3526:8C03:BE17:480D:81C4 (talk) 12:55, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Go ahead. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:03, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If the sky was broken at 800 ft, that would be the cloud ceiling. Perhaps it was broken at 800 ft and overcast at 1500 ft? N9XTN (talk) 01:08, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath[edit]

Does there need to be so much detail of the aftermath in the heading section ? Can't that be left in the main body (where it is duplicated) ? -- Beardo (talk) 02:50, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]