Talk:2007 Quebec general election

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Véronique Hivon, André Joli-Cœur, Linda Goupil and Pierre Curzi are not officially candidates for the Parti québécois. They are just star candidates, but they didn't passed by the nomination assembly. For the electoral district of Jean-Talon, the PQ nomination assembly is only on October 18, 2006. Please, be absolutely sure of the informations that you write on this page.
BChartrand, 16 September 2006

Are you sure? Radio-Canada announced [1] that they would be candidates, and the tone of the article implies that it's a done deal. As far as I know, the party may choose to parachute them in the riding if it wants.Suimpos 16:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On the PQ web site, it's written that it's the PQ members in the ridings who choose their candidates, so it's not official that Pierre Curzi, Linda Goupil, André Joli-Cœur and Véronique Hivon are candidates because they didn't passed by the nomination assembly.[2]
BChartrand, 16 September 2006
Okay then, let's wait until the party officially confirms these nominations.Suimpos 21:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Commons' Motion on the Québec nation[edit]

User 72.68.102.142 wrote that the House of Commons voting to recognize Quebec as a nation has the effect that "[t]he issue of independence now becomes a key issue." I mean, the issue of independence always has some importance in Quebec elections since one of the main parties has it as the first article of its program, and at least one other party favours it. I see no indication that this motion by the House of Commons changes much about the issues of the next Quebec election. Should we keep this comment or remove it?Suimpos 23:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marie-Victorin[edit]

Bernard Drainville announced his candidacy. [3]

Party Logos[edit]

Somebody should update the PQ and the ADQ logos. They have changed as of today. 70.50.156.163 22:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Explain the regions[edit]

Would anyone care to explain which riding are in what regions. I looked at the links and the pages were talking about municipalities not electoral districts.

It's more or less all explained here: Director General of Elections - Electoral divisions by administrative region. SimFan10076 23:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Recheck Jean Charest[edit]

I was just looking at CBC. Apparently Jean Charest won by a slim margin instead of his PQ opponent. So Charest remains Premier. -DanCBJMS via 134.117.168.237 03:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. At the moment, even the Wikipedia mainpage claims that Charest lost his riding. He didn't, he won his riding. The main page should be changed as soon as possible. JdeJ 03:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That was fishy, one minute he was loosing and the next he was up by a 1000 votes, it really makes me wonder --Cloveious 04:10, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Counting of advance polls usually begins after the counting of election day polls. This means that Liberal voters (who tended to be older) voted early. Nothing fishy there. Ground Zero | t 11:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I changed it yesterday night as soon as I heard about it, because Radio-Canada/CBC said he was defeated, not just trailing. But then they said he was called by the election GM who told him he was elected. So you're right, and by the way, congratulations to the person who edited the page, it's well done.Themat21III 21:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Map[edit]

The map posted at the top of the page mistakenly attributes Vachon and Borduas ridings to the ADQ ; they actually elected the Parti Québécois. There may also be other mistakes.

The colors of this map are also inverted. ADQ is supposed to be light blue while the PQ is a darker royal blue. The colow switch makes the map pretty confusing Triptyque 15:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There's nothing official with these colors, it's just what TV channels use, and it's not always the same. Radio-Canada used light blue to represent the ADQ and CBC used orange. But I think it would better if someone is able to switch the ADQ's color from blue to yellow, because two shades of the same color can be confusing.Themat21III 21:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The map has been fixed. Next time, feel free to fix it yourself. Also, there's no way we're using orange for the ADQ! Try and be reasonable here folks. Purple, maybe, but orange is from a different planet. -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, QS has orange sewn up -- not least because orange is a bit of a lefty colour in Canadian politics. - Montréalais 22:15, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "dot map" is awful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.197.82.153 (talk) 16:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chart colours[edit]

The PQ and ADQ colours in the charts look identical to my colourblind eyes. Can we use like really dark blue for one party and really light blue for the other? Also, we probably should consider using something other than daggers (†) to mark MNAs not running for re-election. In some cultures, a small cross next to someone's name means he's dead. -- Mwalcoff 23:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently trying to work out a good darker blue for the ADQ that keeps the party distinct from the Conservatives and the Progressive Conservatives. The difficulty is that Quebec separatism is generally associated with cyan while the ADQ uses blue in various shades in most of its literature. —Cuiviénen 00:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How does the new dark blue look? —Cuiviénen 00:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Très bon. -- Mwalcoff 02:16, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually everywhere I saw on TV the ADQ has lightblue, PQ dark blue, Liberals red. I think we should go with such colors. The current ones are somewhat confusing and not standard with what the press has widely used. 70.55.60.209 03:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC) Phil[reply]

There is no typical usage among TV stations; as stated above, CBC used orange for the ADQ. Given that light blue is associated with Quebec separatism and dark blue is the color of conservativism, the current configuration makes sense. —Cuiviénen 04:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The dark blue is far too dark. It hurts my eyes trying to distinguish the black text from the blue. Perhaps a bit lighter? --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 05:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed to something lighter, albeit darker than the original color. --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 05:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
CBC never used orange for the ADQ. They used light blue. -- Earl Andrew - talk 00:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Did someone turn it back to the original colour? Now I can't tell the difference again. Is it essential that we use blue for both parties? Would it be wrong to sacrifice faithfulness to official party colours and use yellow or something for one of the parties for the sake of clarity? -- Mwalcoff 23:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Changed to another dark color; I agree the light blue was prety bad. --hello, i'm a member | talk to me! 18:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Much better, thanks. -- Mwalcoff 18:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I like dark blue for the ADQ; like someone said, it's the color of conservatism. Besides, light blue somehow seems appropriate for the PQ. 24.201.253.66 23:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image doesn't make sense[edit]

This image [4] is linked on the page, but there's no key for it...it doesn't really make sense as is. Cogswobbletalk 23:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The region list is confusing[edit]

I suggest renaming and redoing it so it reflects the Official Governement of Quebec Administrative Regions. There are 16 in all...

It does reflect them, and there are actually 17 like in the graph. -- Earl Andrew - talk 16:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problematic sentence[edit]

"Despite recording only a 33% share of the popular vote, the Quebec Liberal Party led by Jean Charest managed to win a plurality of seats" -- "despite" might be all right if they'd won an outright majority, but 33% is a plurality, so it's not a surprise they took a plurality of seats. And they only took 38.4% of seats, so the distortion isn't too bad either (considering minor parties that failed to win any seats won close to 8%). Biruitorul 14:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sentence changed. Yah this is one of those rare occasions where the FPTP actually produced relatively proportional results. If the PLQ won a majority on that level of support, or the ADQ won a minority, then it's unintuitive and the term would be more justified. Kelvinc 23:41, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Thank you. Biruitorul 03:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]


No problem, but remember WP:BOLD. Kelvinc 07:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Article assessment[edit]

I rated the article "C" class today, as it provides a reasonable amount of commentary and analysis but there are areas that could be improved, for example;

  • the results by riding map in the infobox is confusing, due to the 12 colours that it uses and because it doesn't explain the what the 5 jigsaw puzzle pieces mean
  • overall, the article contains a collection of data rather than much descriptive information. It would be useful, for instance, to obtain referenced opinions from the government and media about why the ADQ improved its position so much.
  • the "Major Parties" section can be dropped, as the same information is provided in the next section.

PKT(alk) 15:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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