Talk:2008–09 Heineken Cup

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Tiering[edit]

If anyone is wondering about the logic behind the tierings I have already put up, the spreadsheet I am using is here; basically, by looking at which teams have, have not and may have qualified one can acertain a team's potential highst and lowest seeding out of the qualifying 24, and in certain cases this range lies entirely within one tier - in which case the team must be in that teir, so I have done so. Technically OR? But verifiable. Rawling4851 14:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Irish Flag[edit]

Why do Munster and Leinster not have Irish flags? Its half understandable for the national team but surely these two provinces which are entirely contained in the country of Ireland canuse the Irish flag?--194.106.137.50 (talk) 15:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Those teams do not represent the Republic of Ireland, rather they represent the Irish island as a whole. Therefore, it is not appropriate for them to be linked with the Irish flag. In fact, the only flag that they can use is the flag of the IRFU, which may not be used for decorative purposes. – PeeJay 15:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added a new flag. This one is in the german wikipedia and is authorized for free use. - SpiderPig 14:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That is not a flag that the Irish rugby union team plays under, and therefore it fails WP:MOSICON#Do not invent new icons. – PeeJay 14:16, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Listen mate. This flag is used by the german, the french, and the spanish wikipedia. The polish wiki even uses the original IRFU flag. So please explain me, why the biggest wiki version on this our planet earth isn't able to use one of them flags? - SpiderPig 18:37, 1 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.75.158.206 (talk) [reply]
You mean WP:MOSICON#Do not invent new icons isn't enough explanation for you? If wikis in other languages use those images, that's up to them – they have to abide by their own rules – but on en.wikipedia we have to abide by our rules, and those rules say that we should not invent new icons to fill a perceived need for one, and nor should we violate WP:FAIRUSE with regard to the IRFU flag. Happy? – PeeJay 21:14, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Happy is a swan in the water. I get your point of not using the original IRFU flag, 'cause it might offend some suits. But the other flag, "generic shamrock" by name, is an official wikipedia substitute for the IRFU flag. It even says so on it's page. Please take a minute and read the discussion log. - SpiderPig 01:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.75.158.206 (talk) [reply]
Just because one user has, albeit eloquently, described the purpose of that image does not make it an "official wikipedia substitute for the IRFU flag". That image fails WP:MOSICON#Do not invent new icons, an issue that you have thus far failed to address. – PeeJay 23:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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