Talk:2014 German Masters

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Could something be written about the way this draw was made for the last 64 as it appears that there were no seedings? Was it a random draw? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.254.3 (talk) 11:25, 23 January 2014‎

I don't think there is anything, that needs to be written about "the way this draw was made for the last 64". It's a straight knock-out tournament (no random draw was made), where the first round is the qualifying. (The previous articles, where more qualifying round were held, doesn't contain such information either.) Armbrust The Homunculus 11:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're missing the point Armbrust as there is seeding in the tournament. E.g. defending champ #1, world champ (i think) #2 and then ranking order, so the top 64 plays a member outside the top 64 in first round and the tournament is structured so that 3 and 4 are drawn for a half, 5, 6, 7 and 8 are drawn for a quarter etc. And that was the question being asked, whether there is any seeding at any point and the answer is yes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.40.62 (talk) 12:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The articles on the English Wikipedia contain only the seeding of players, who are seeded through to the televised stages of tournaments. As in this case it doesn't apply to any player, therefore no seeding numbers are in the article. Armbrust The Homunculus 12:54, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Put it this way, Barry Hearne has made it very clear that some events will have an FA cup style random draw while other will have the 128 seed playing the No.1 [1]. when I looked at this draw/format there's no way of telling how and why this draw has been done. In the context of the changes to the game this is now an important issue and a specific differentiating factor between events. All that needs to be said is whether the event is an A, B, C, D, E or F format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.254.3 (talk) 14:42, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are only two "FA cup style random draw" events (the World Seniors Championship and the Snooker Shoot-Out), and they are both non-ranking. In these cases the articles also mention, that they are random draw events. Mentioning that, this event follows the conventional structure of snooker tournaments (qualifying and televised stage) is unnecessary and redundant. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Right, so we know this wasn't an FA cup style draw, but was it a 1V128, 2-127 down to 64V65 draw, how exactly was it decided who plays who? Was it drawn 1-64 against a 65-128 at random? It's not as though its an unreasonable question to ask given the amount of changes and tweaks that are currently being made to the game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.254.2 (talk) 16:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No sources indicate, how the draw was made (or how the draws are generally made), and therefore including anything about it would be original research. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:15, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Then don;t you think it's worth finding out? The BBC [2] Players from the top 64 take on those ranked 65-128 in the first round in a random draw, eventually, the exception would be the UK Championship where the world number one will play the lowest-ranked player, number two would face 127 and so on. If you then look at the World Snooker file [3] it clearly sets out that the German Masters has an "A" round structure, whilst others are B, C, D E and F structures, i suggest you read it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.255.2 (talk) 16:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not really, and even if I would, I wouldn't use an articles talk page on Wikipedia to find out. The BBC source indicates, what was planned in January 2013, long before the plan finalised, and not necessarily reflect what has actually happened. It for example doesn't differentiate between events, where all matches are held over and where not. The World Snooker source only says "All players in from first round. Players seeded in bands so Seed no 1 doesn’t meet no 2 until the final, top 2 don’t meet 3 & 4 until semi final, and so on." for the round structure "A". It's too vague to be useful, and it doesn't really say anything about how the players are drown against each-other. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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