Talk:2015 FIA World Rallycross Championship
 | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||
| |||||||||||
"Knapick" and entrant vs. competitor[edit]
This entry list for Lohéac and this entry list for Barcelona clearly prove what I've claimed before. "Knapick" is not a real name, but a pseudonym used by Frenchman Hervé Lemonnier for almost 50 years. I know Hervé since the 1978 French ERX round at Lohéac and do not remember that he ever used his true family name for racing/rallycross, opposite to both his daughters. For many years he entered Rallycross events as "Knapick", only during the last 10 or so years he entered more and more often as Hervé "Knapick". However, the organisers of World RX list him as Driver: "Knapick" and as Competitor: Hervé "Knapick" Lemonnier. Can we please follow the official docs for info like this? RX-Guru (talk) 14:38, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
WRX of Argentina[edit]
Please note this as well as this here, meaning that FIA/IMG have changed the venue for WorldRX of Argentina at the 11th hour. RX-Guru (talk) 08:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Dear Mr Holdenman, as it seems that you are not really keen to cooperate with other WP users, but instead try to do your own thing, I'll decided to post my complaint here rather than on your talk page. I'm a professional motorsport journalist, specialized for 40 years in the FIA European Rallycross Championship, and nowadays the FIA World Rallycross Championship. I do not have a lot of time for to spend in Wikipedia, but defo no time at all for your silly games. If I add or change things in Rallycross related articles I know exactly what I'm talking about, but also try to verify them with links to official sources. Therefore, I don't need a just Rallycross fan to undo my work without comments or proof that I'm wrong. So please give up your unfriendly behavior, as this is not your very own Wikipedia. Thanks in anticipation! RX-Guru (talk) 13:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- If you are referring to Hervé Lemmonier, there are no 'silly games' here. His name is Hervé Lemmonier, his entry name is Knapick. This is why I named the 'competitor' section "Knapick" and the driver name "Hervé Lemmonier". It also assists those who are new to the sport - a driver with the name "Knapick" makes no sense at all. Similar to 2015 All-Japan Formula Three season - if it were my choice, I would use "Dragon's" correct name with "Dragon" as a nickname between his forename and surname - however, knowing very little about Japanese F3 I know better than to mess that up. The compromise solution (Entrant - Knapick; Competitor - Hervé "Knapick" Lemmonier) will work. It depends on whether you want to co-operate. I do not doubt your expertise, however this is the best solution. Holdenman05 (talk) 20:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- According to FIA rules every driver is allowed to use a pseudonym, which is recognized by his ASN. Therefore, yes, "Knapick" makes sense, as long as the inverted commas show that it is a pseudonym. For whatever reason FIA & IMG have decided to put his name as Hervé "Knapick" Lemonnier into the competitor section I don't know, but I don't like it. (And I also prefer the term entrant instead of competitor, but competitor is what the official FIA/IMG documents read.) However, the way I put it the link in both sections would lead to Hervé Lemonnier, as soon as there will be a full WP article for him, telling also that his pseudonym as a racer is "Knapick". RX-Guru (talk) 22:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've just started a WP article on Hervé Lemonnier for those who are new to rallycross. RX-Guru (talk) 01:20, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- As I only know the story of his pseudonym, but never saw a Knapick Trailer myself, I checked with mother Google to find this thing for spreading out fertilizer. BTW, forgot to mention that in case of a driver is using a by his ASN (here the FFSA) recognized pseudonym his international racing licence is made with this alias instead of his true name. RX-Guru (talk) 13:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- As you claimed before to know Hervé, it may be better to check with him to get the full story. I get the fact he named himself after Knapick trailers to hide his identity, but to get a verified explanation at some stage would be useful. Holdenman05 (talk) 19:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- He himself told me the story about 30 years ago and I found over the years several interviews with newspapers and magazines in which he repeated the same info over and over. After 25+ years of travelling to all ERX rounds nowadays I only attend a very few Rallycross events per year. Therefore, I haven't seen Hervé for about a decade. Another problem is that I don't speak French and he don't speak English. Without helping friends we cannot really communicate. As a reliable source I put a link to an interview of the newspaper Ouest France (the most important newspaper for his part of France) with him into his article, where he once again clearly states how it came to his pseudonym. The problem with Wikipedia is that my own words as a user don't count here, the info must have been published somewhere else to be rated as verified. RX-Guru (talk) 23:28, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- As you claimed before to know Hervé, it may be better to check with him to get the full story. I get the fact he named himself after Knapick trailers to hide his identity, but to get a verified explanation at some stage would be useful. Holdenman05 (talk) 19:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- As I only know the story of his pseudonym, but never saw a Knapick Trailer myself, I checked with mother Google to find this thing for spreading out fertilizer. BTW, forgot to mention that in case of a driver is using a by his ASN (here the FFSA) recognized pseudonym his international racing licence is made with this alias instead of his true name. RX-Guru (talk) 13:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've just started a WP article on Hervé Lemonnier for those who are new to rallycross. RX-Guru (talk) 01:20, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- According to FIA rules every driver is allowed to use a pseudonym, which is recognized by his ASN. Therefore, yes, "Knapick" makes sense, as long as the inverted commas show that it is a pseudonym. For whatever reason FIA & IMG have decided to put his name as Hervé "Knapick" Lemonnier into the competitor section I don't know, but I don't like it. (And I also prefer the term entrant instead of competitor, but competitor is what the official FIA/IMG documents read.) However, the way I put it the link in both sections would lead to Hervé Lemonnier, as soon as there will be a full WP article for him, telling also that his pseudonym as a racer is "Knapick". RX-Guru (talk) 22:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
2015 Final Standings[edit]
The Final Standings for 2015 are a little incorrect. According to the following order Münnich cannot be 41st, but must be 40th. Here one can find the following order according to the series' runners. However, on one side they included even those drivers that did not score points, on the other side there list lacks a proper chronological following order. Therefore, IMO it would be better to use this list here. It leaves the drivers with no points out, but is in chonological order and has all driver names in correct spellings as well as the cars and models mentioned according to there homologation numbers. RX-Guru (talk) 08:44, 22 March 2016 (UTC)