Talk:2019 Bali United F.C. season

	Association football portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Football, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Association football on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FootballWikipedia:WikiProject FootballTemplate:WikiProject Footballfootball articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the season article task force.

Indonesia Low‑importance

	Indonesia portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indonesia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Indonesia and Indonesia-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IndonesiaWikipedia:WikiProject IndonesiaTemplate:WikiProject IndonesiaIndonesia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

January 2019[edit]

@Hhkohh: please tell Edwink85 to not use transfermarkt as a references. Wira rhea (talk) 10:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hhkohh: maybe tell the discussion about it, because I'll get warned when I added source from transfermarkt before so is it valid or not? Wira rhea (talk) 10:29, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wira rhea, no need an extra discussion. Because this kind of issue has already been discussed in WP:RS/N several times. Just note that Transfermarkt is unreliable in their user talk page is okay. Hhkohh (talk) 10:36, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So what to use then as a source? As this is the right data. Confirmed. Transfermarket is taking it over because it is reliable and they are checking it themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwink85 (talk • contribs) 10:45, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edwink85, if you think Transfermarkt is reliable, please take it to WP:RS/N before your blind undoing. I think you should read previous discussion for now. Hhkohh (talk) 11:03, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just try it out yourself. I know how they are working, exactly the same as at wikipedia. But again the question is, what sources do you want then? I think the most important thing is that wikipedia is completed with the right data. Which is at the moment is not the fact, and which is something I want to change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwink85 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edwink85, I do not want to challenge the consensus and many people (included I) also know how Transfermarkt works, but consensus is Transfermarkt is not a reliable source. Hhkohh (talk) 11:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So again the question, what is a reliable source? As I said, it's all my own research work. FYI. For some clubs like the smaller clubs like PSS Sleman it took me 20 hours to complete the standard data what transfermarkt is using. I can show my database to you, so you will understand it will be a mess if i'm keeping all the sources that I've used. I just want to share it with wikipedia as I don't like to see all the incomplete and wrong information. But if wikipedia prefers to keep using old, wrong and incomplete data then that is fine with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwink85 (talk • contribs) 11:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Edwink85 and Hhkohh: Maybe I'll put this case into WP:FOOTY to further discussion? I know it already mentioned many time in WP:RS/N, but just to be clear why Transfermarkt is not reliable. Wira rhea (talk) 12:15, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Haha sorry, what? I'm new. I'm happy to discuss about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwink85 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Edwink85: well then, I already put the discussion in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#About transfermarkt. Keep watch the discussion so maybe we can get a details about transfermarkt being not reliable. Regards. Wira rhea (talk) 12:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]