Talk:2021 Western Australian state election

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Post election pendulum[edit]

Shouldn't the Nationals be listed as the opposition on the post election pendulum, with the Liberal party on the crossbench? Or are we saying the liberals are opposition because they were opposition going into the election? Steelkamp (talk) 14:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The biggest party isn't necessarily the opposition. As far as I'm aware, the opposition needs to be appointed as the opposition. There was a similar situation in the Northern Territory, where the Territory Alliance had more seats than the Country Liberal Party, attempted to form opposition, but the smaller party remained in the role. Catiline52 (talk) 00:03, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Either way, it's really a bit early for the post-election pendulum, which is not particularly useful until we have final margins (so that seats can be ordered properly - there are seats that aren't even decided yet, so we can't list e.g. Churchlands on the Labor side when it's still in doubt). Frickeg (talk) 00:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Or are we saying the liberals are opposition because they were opposition going into the election?"

The problem is that people have taken for granted that the Liberals as either the Government or Official Opposition party.

It is barely time for anyone to grasp this changed political reality.

The reason why Territory Alliance in the NT didn't get to be the Official Opposition is that they had lost a vote on the floor of Parliament under standing orders.

The CLP remained the Official Opposition with support of independents with NT Labor members abstaining from this vote.

I find it hard to believe that WA Labor members would take part in a vote on whether their main opponents are the Liberals or Nationals and as they are no independents the Nationals are the Official Opposition. 49.3.72.79 (talk) 02:44, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If the Nats end up with more members, which is not actually confirmed. Given NW Central, Churchlands, Carine and Nedlands (and to a lesser extent Warren-Blackwood) are all still in doubt, it's not impossible that the Nats could end up on 3 and the Liberals on 5. Unlikely, but not settled at this point. Frickeg (talk) 02:56, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Now that there are no seats in doubt, I propose that for the post-election pendulum, the Nationals be listed as non-government seats, and the Liberals be listed as cross bench seats. As this article says, "the party with the most numbers in the Lower House must under the law become the opposition". Mark McGowan also further implies that the Nationals will be the opposition party. "Mr McGowan said the money would be provided to the Nationals — as the official opposition party — to be split as it saw fit with the Liberals. Steelkamp (talk) 13:53, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You know, I have never noticed that "non-government" wording before. Surely, if we're making that distinction, it should be "opposition"? But "non-government" actually works for us at the moment, because it's too early to say that the Liberals will be sitting as crossbenchers. Just pop them all in "non-government", and when Parliament sits, we can update as necessary. Frickeg (talk) 21:45, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Liberals has more seats in the Upper House than in the Lower House; Nats in Upper House[edit]

It looks like the Liberals will have more seats in the Upper House than it does in the Lower House. Is that the first time this has happened?

The Nationals are now the Official Opposition but don't have the most or the second most number of seats in the Upper House. Is that the first time that has happened to the Official Opposition? 49.3.72.79 (talk) 19:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It was actually the case from 1933 to 1947 where the Country Party had more seats in the lower house than the Nationalists and was the official opposition, but the Nationalists had the most seats in the Upper House. This only changed at the 1947 election when the Liberals won more seats than the Country party and thus its leader Ross McLarty became Premier instead of the former opposition leader, Arthur Watts, as their Coalition defeated the incumbent Labor government. Kirsdarke01 (talk) 06:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Candidates of the next Western Australian state election" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Candidates of the next Western Australian state election. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 27#Candidates of the next Western Australian state election until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Senator2029 ❮talk❯ 20:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Error in comments under "Seats Changing Parties"[edit]

The short comment on the seats changing hands incorrectly states that Cottesloe is the "only non-Labor seat in the capital." Churchlands is also in Perth continues to be held by the Liberal Party.

125.63.30.196 (talk) 06:35, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's not correct – Churchlands was won by Christine Tonkin for the Labor Party (and it's listed in the Seats Changing Parties section). If you look at the two-party preferred results map in the infobox, there is only one seat in Perth not held by Labor and it is Cottesloe. --Canley (talk) 07:10, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion polling graphs[edit]

Is it just me, or is it entirely pointless to have graphs of opinion polling when there is two and a half years of no data? Pinging @Capetheshill:. Steelkamp (talk) 03:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Is a “key dates” section necessary?[edit]

The key dates sections doesn’t seem particularly encyclopaedic or notable and only adds to the article length. If it’s particularly important to someone I suggest the dates just be included in the narrative in background section or something. Adondai (talk) 00:05, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]