Talk:2022 Bega state by-election

Draft background info and timing added to contextualise the 4 concurrent by-elections across NSW. Very happy to discuss further for editing and improvements needed to raise the quality of this article. Cheers everyone.

Onetwothreeip, LivelyRatification, Yeahnamate, Twotwofourtysix, Marcnut1996, Mitch Ames, Dgyuedgyef, Kaylenesmith, Cassiopeia, and Canley very happy to hear your thoughts and suggestions, if you wish.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by KoalaAussieBlue (talk • contribs)

@KoalaAussieBlue: A couple of comments:

• Please sign your posts on Talk pages (just use four tildes ~~~~).
• Don't include break tags like {{br}}, two line breaks is sufficient, as you can see when you add manual line breaks tags or templates like this the space between paragraphs is excessive.
• You have not included any references for your additions. This is important, particularly when you make value judgements like "These by-elections are remarkable" or make a statement about a reason like "This was due to the special COVID-19 arrangements..." and the reason iVote is not being not used.
• The tense is very strange: the by-elections are tomorrow, but the background info starts in the past tense: "On Saturday 12 February 2022, a total of four by-elections were held..." and "Postal votes were included in the count..." . In the part about the issue of the writs, it sounds like this is in the future tense "the writs ... will be issued" but as you are talking about the announcement of the writs, this should say "the announcement ... that the writs would be issued"

--Canley (talk) 03:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Note I have also removed the "Local Resident" columns from the candidate lists. I initially thought they were unreferenced but I realise now you (presumably) determined if their locality of residence from the NSWEC list was in the electoral district or not. I don't think this column is necessary, and it's sailing a little close to original research or synthesis for my liking, however if there is support and consensus for its inclusion, happy to concede. --Canley (talk) 03:54, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

@Canley: heya the candidate's postcodes and suburbs are listed in their Child Protection Documentation on the NSW Electoral Commission website https://www.elections.nsw.gov.au/Elections/State-government-elections/Bega-By-election/nominated-candidates; in the Willoughby electorate example, the person 'living outside' the electorate is living next door 5 minutes away in Mosman; hope this info helps clarity KoalaAussieBlue (talk) 05:07, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I know that is where you got the residence information, but that is still synthesis of localities and electoral districts, so original research. I don't really get the point of the column – as you say it is very literal and someone on a particular side of the street or a few minutes away from a district boundary would be classified as 'not local'. I know this is not your intention but there can be concerns about people being parachuted in from "outside" electorates, so tagging candidates in this way, especially when based on a quite opaque and arbitrary synthesis like this, seems unnecessary and controversial. --Canley (talk) 05:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

@Canley: this newspaper article published this arvo provides a good in-depth round up of current mood; one candidate flew ex PM Kevin Rudd in, while the current NSW Premier has generally stayed away from the electorates in question; Labor is expected to lose Strathfield, and Liberals are expected to lose Bega; there is an ongoing legacy regarding the allegations of fraud or corruption from the previous Berejiklian government, who is due back at ICAC for more questioning this year, which was the catalyst for this super by-election: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/super-saturday-perrottet-s-big-test-as-voters-go-to-polls-in-four-byelections-20220211-p59vnp.html KoalaAussieBlue (talk) 05:37, 11 February 2022 (UTC)