Talk:2023 in British television

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Section sizes

Section size for 2023 in British television (44 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	182	182
Events	11	225,578
January	20,991	20,991
February	17,729	17,729
March	26,310	26,310
April	13,299	13,299
May	24,156	24,156
June	18,092	18,092
July	19,973	19,973
August	15,877	15,877
September	21,299	21,299
October	16,610	16,610
November	12,185	12,185
December	19,046	19,046
Debuts	11	14,501
BBC	5,005	5,005
ITV	2,254	2,254
Channel 4	1,720	1,720
Channel 5	909	909
Sky	1,011	1,011
Other channels	3,591	3,591
Channels and streaming services	36	1,722
New channels	367	367
New streaming services	188	188
Defunct channels/streaming services	500	500
Rebranding channels/streaming services	631	631
Television programmes	26	3,567
Changes of network affiliation	1,829	1,829
Returning this year after a break of one year or longer	1,712	1,712
Continuing television programmes	37	9,261
1920s	143	143
1930s	212	212
1950s	293	293
1960s	618	618
1970s	612	612
1980s	556	556
1990s	766	766
2000s	2,741	2,741
2010s	2,360	2,360
2020s	923	923
Ending this year	4,776	4,776
Deaths	34,433	34,433
References	42	42
External links	287	287
Total	294,349	294,349

Brackets in years[edit]

Hey all! I hope you are having a wonderful Sunday. I brought this up last year but only one other editor commented, so I am going to bring it up again.

In the "Continuing television programmes" section (of all "Year in British Television" pages), all of the year durations are in brackets. However, there seems to be no reason for this, as they are in a separate table and them being in brackets does not seem to make any sense, especially as there is no text alongside them. I think that the brackets should be removed as I do not see any reason for them – it's also a bit confusing and a waste of characters. For other tables where durations are used, they are never in brackets, and nothing in the MOS dictates that it should be un brackets. Hence, I suggest that we remove the brackets as there seems to be no reason, and it is grammatically incorrect. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 22:34, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging some editors - Meena, This is Paul, ConnorJYT, Starklinson, EuanGilmour95 and L3w15 – for comment as I have seen you guys being active on this page (I might have missed some editors though, so please do ping anyone else you would like to!) DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:01, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support removal of brackets I've edited these yearly lists for a few years running and had the same thought many, many times, but never really thought to remove them as it wasn't at the front of my mind. But if you're willing to, I would support the removal as they are, as you clarified, incorrectly used. – Meena • 23:02, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support for removal of brackets for the reasons I have stated above.DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just an additional comment: 2023 in British radio uses brackets for years e.g. "The Archer (1950–Present)" and even articles such as 1971 in British television – however they are not in table form and thus it makes sense, whereas the programmes here are in a table and thus makes the brackets redundant and factually incorrect. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:09, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment it may be worth noting that this discussion took place last September on Talk:2022 in British television and nobody objected then. Also, side note, editors shouldn't really support their own discussion as their initial message acts as their support for the change they want to make. – Meena • 10:40, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I brought it up last year and you and I were the only ones to comment so I wanted to try again. Also sorry, I thought my discussion sounded like a question so I just wanted to clarify my stance DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 17:49, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support removal of brackets in articles with tables. They should remain in the articles that don't have tables though as that would seem to make more sense in that particular situation. This is Paul (talk) 12:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yes 100%, as I said when I started the discussion, it makes sense when not in a table (e.g. The Archers (1960–present)) so obviously brackets would stay then😊 DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 17:50, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is no currently no objection (and I doubt that there will be more participation), I have removed the brackets from this page for now. If there is a change in consensus to add them back then we can of course do that. I will wait a few more days and if there is no objection I will remove the brackets from other pages. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:45, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Parkinson death being duplicated[edit]

in the deaths segment of the page, michael parkinson has been duplicated Katherine Northey (talk) 13:19, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why is King of the Hill in this article?[edit]

As far as I know, it’s an American TV show. Zipgyros (talk) 00:31, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Article size[edit]

This article has 294,071 bytes of markup. How can it be reduced? Should it be dived into three of four sub-articles? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]