Talk:2024 Pakistani general election/Archive 1

Archive 1

Detailed whitepaper on rigging

PTI released a comprehensive whitepaper on election rigging (not sure if its official) but its covering pre-poll and poll rigging with references from reliable independent sources. This white paper seems valuable and could serve as a basis for expanding this article further, although the whitepaper itself cannot be used as a reference. Saqib (talk) 20:01, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

I believe it is official and is being released by the PTI team, I think it is a good idea to use information from it on the Allegations of Rigging in the 2024 Pakistani general election page. Titan2456 (talk) 15:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Imran Khan image

@WikiEnthusiast1001 we should be adding the most contemporary/recent images, the most recent one is from June 2023. Titan2456 (talk) 11:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Wallu2 and Titan2456: Guys please stop your edit warring over the image of Khan. --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 10:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

@Wallu2 Agreed. Better to provide reasons for why to use each image here, before making changes to the main page. I think we should use the other image as it is higher quality. Titan2456 (talk) 15:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

By elections

Add by election of 21 April 2024 create new page plss 93.147.6.158 (talk) 21:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

@Ainty Painty, Muzzzmuzzmuzzz, and Masterpha: We certainly need a standalone page dedicated to the by-election held today, covering the 21 seats. Despite the small number of seats, this is a significant by-election. Would anyone of you be interested in taking the lead on creating it? --—Saqib (talk | contribs) 12:21, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

I was hesitant since last time I created October 2018 Pakistani by-elections, I could not update it and no one else did it as well. Also, there is an issue of having only 25 constituencies and that too dispersed among five different assemblies. I believe there are only 2/3 National Assembly seats up for grabs. My suggestion would be to have a separate section under current articles for respective assemblies to cover these results. I don’t think there is a need for five more articles. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 14:03, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

2024 Pakistani by-elections – Ainty Painty (talk) 01:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

National Assembly shown

Like done to British elections, I am adding the National Assembly after the election underneath the election map to every Pakistani election. Currently, the 2024, 2018, 2013, 1985, 1970 and 1977 elections all have National Assembly depictions and I will add them, putting this here so I know if anyone opposes this. Titan2456 (talk) 19:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

It shouldn't be there – the section is for maps, not parliamentary diagrams. Parliamentary diagrams go on the results table. Cheers, Number 57 21:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Also, it's a bit misleading to say the other articles have it in the infobox (which suggests they have been there for some time) when you only added them to the articles today. Number 57 21:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

When did I say other election articles have it, it is done to every single British election, and Pakistan and Britain share relatively the same electoral system. Also, the main point of a general in Pakistan is to elect the National assembly so it should be shown. Titan2456 (talk) 21:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

You said "Currently, the 2024, 2018, 2013, 1985, 1970 and 1977 elections all have National Assembly depictions". Number 57 21:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I am not saying it should not be shown – I am saying it should be in the results table, where I have moved it to. Cheers, Number 57 21:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

You misunderstood 😅, they dont have depictions added, they have depictions (images on commins) to be added, the rest of the elections dont have any National Assembly images. Titan2456 (talk) 21:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Cheers! Titan2456 (talk) 21:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah my bad, apologies. Hope the other point makes sense though. Number 57 21:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Pti just got back reserved seats

We should add this since the current chart is now outdated Ricky dicks (talk) 12:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown: Previously, I didn't object to your labeling PTI as SIC across the articles because I've been less active in editing election or even politics-related articles, focusing instead on NPP. However, given the recent backing of PTI's claim as a parliamentary party by the Supreme Court full bench, I suggest we update our articles accordingly. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

@Saqib Please do not jump the gun; it is too early to do that. The ruling has been challenged, and the National Assembly website still lists SIC members as SIC members. Once they update, we can update as well. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 14:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request

PTI/SIC current seats in the national assembly are 81 as per National Assembly website. PMLN has 107 seats. Wrong information being displayed on the page. Please correct this. LingoSouthAsia (talk) 05:59, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done Partially completed, the seats include those for minorities and women, but not yet for independents. Reserved seats have not yet been allocated to PTI. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 11:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

@SheriffIsInTown: Thank you. But please recheck PMLN seats 108 not 98 as 10 independents joined PMLN after the elections within 3 days as per election rules. Current National assembly strength of PMLN is 108= 75 won+10 joined +23 resreves. If Supreme court decision is revised based on reviw petition then It will be 124 but currently it is 108 not 98. LingoSouthAsia (talk) 07:37, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm not closely following this page but I'm curious if information is being updated based on references—if so, I haven't seen it yet. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 07:46, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Here we go the desired reference from Pakistan national assembly official website [[1]]. PMLN 108. Other parties current position is PPP (68), MQM-P (21), PML(Q) (5), IPP (4), BAP (1), NP (1), PML(Z) (1), SIC (45), PTI (38), Independent (8), JUI-F (8), BNP-M (1), MWM (1), PKMAP (1), Suspended and review filed in Supreme Court (24) 1 Vacant after Death of PTI MNA recently. LingoSouthAsia (talk) 08:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

And why do we need to update the infobox based on developments post-election? — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Reserve seats and Independents decision who Join a party are part of election process and same is always reflected in each Pakistani election article. See PTI won 114 general seats but we put 149 seats (same principle) for PTI in [[2]]. LingoSouthAsia (talk) 08:30, 8 August 2024 (UTC)