Talk:370th Air Expeditionary Wing

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~~Just an fyi, almost all of the page is taken word for word from the book 'Air Force combat units of World War II'~~

May have been true at one time, but no longer. --Lineagegeek (talk) 17:22, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate information[edit]

The 370 Air Expeditionary Advisory Group is unrelated to the 370th Fighter Group. It is the successor to the 10th Troop Carrier Group, while the 370th Fighter Group today is the 140th Operations Group. I have changed the assessments to reflect No for appropriate supporting materials. Lineagegeek (talk) 14:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles have been moved and realigned--Lineagegeek (talk) 12:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mergers[edit]

The 10th Troop Carrier Group was reconstituted and redesignated the 370th Military Airlift Group in 1985. It was subsequently converted to provisional status as the 370th Air Expeditionary Group, then to the 370th Air Expeditionary Advisory Group before being activated in 2007-2008. The 10th TCG article should be merged into this article.

The 370th Fighter Group information on this page should be moved to a new page under its current designation, the 140th Operations Group. That page should combine with information currently on the 140th Wing page concerning the 140th Fighter Group, 140th Fighter-Bomber Group, 140th Fighter-Interceptor Group and 140th Tactical Fighter Group (all previous designations of the 140th Operations Group) and the redlinked groups created as redirects to the 140th Operations Group and the active link redirect changed, adding suitable references on the 140th wing and group pages for additional lineage and history.--Lineagegeek (talk) 14:19, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. Also moved out the 370th FG information (was going to do that later). Take care Bwmoll3 (talk) 15:06, 14 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

10th TCG material moved. --Lineagegeek (talk) 12:43, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First 15 Groups?[edit]

The 10th Troop Carrier Group article included an unsourced statement that it was one of the first 15 groups of the US Army Air Corps, which I have removed.

In addition to being unsourced, I do not see how this is accurate.

First, the statement would have to be restated as one of the first 15 groups in the Regular Air Corps to eliminate the scores of groups formed in the Organized Reserves in the 1920s.

The most logical "first" groups would seem to be the seven groups formed in 1919: (what became the 1st Pursuit Group; 2d, 7th Bombardment Groups; 3d Attack Group; 4th, 5th, 6th Composite Groups)

Or the fourteen groups that were formed by the time the Air Service adopted a single numerical series for groups with their type included in the designation in 1923: (adding the 8th Pursuit Group (active 1931); 9th, 12th (active 1930), 17th (active 1931) Observation Groups; 10th, 11th, 13th (active 1927) School Groups; 21st Airship Group)

Or the seventeen groups that were formed by 1927 when the Air Service became the Air Corps: (adding the 18th Pursuit Group, 19th Observation Group (active 1932) 20th Balloon Group (active 1930 as Pursuit Group).

The 16th Pursuit Group was also formed before this unit was constituted. However the "first" groups are defined, there doesn't seem to be a way to count them as 15. The closest would be to restate as the first 15 Regular Aircraft groups constituted when the Air Service became the Air Corps (eliminating the 20th & 21st Balloon Groups), which would be accurate for 1927. However, that would still not include a group constituted in 1933.--Lineagegeek (talk) 13:27, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Command Assignment of 370th Air Expeditionary Advisory Group[edit]

The article on the 370th Air Expeditionary Advisory Group, which was merged into this article, stated that the unit was asssigned to Air Education and Training Command when converted to provisional status in 2007, but this was unsourced (I have added a citation needed tag to this where it still appears in the article). However, the AFHRA Factsheet for the group indicates that the unit was assigned (not attached) to the 9th Air Expeditionary Task Force, an element of United States Air Forces Central when activated in 2007. The command of assignment (to activate and inactivate as needed) in not exploicitly stated, only implied in the AFHRA Factsheet. This should be resolved, but I do not have a definitive source. Because the organization was activated in Iraq, its redesignation and activation is not included in the unclassified Air Force Organization Change Status Reports for 2007. (this report has a classified counterpart which is not available to the public).--Lineagegeek (talk) 17:22, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]