Talk:53rd New Zealand Parliament

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Parliamentary shield[edit]

File:53rd NZ Parliament Shield.png

53rd NZ Parliament Shield

Radicuil has uploaded a parliamentary shield. MP images are generally excluded from the free license, but this might be different. I've sent a note to the parliamentary team to get some clarification:

I’m writing with my Wikipedia hat on. Another editor has uploaded a the 53^rd-parliament shield to Wikimedia Commons.
On your website: https://www.parliament.nz/media/10669/53rd-parliament-shield_1.png

On Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:53rd_NZ_Parliament_Shield.png
On your copyright page, you outline that you can’t provide freely licensed content if you didn’t create it and it specifically talks about MP images, although only in the context of parliamentary bio pages. It seems, however, that all the images have the same background and that suggest that you engaged a photographer to get headshots of all MPs. Is that assumption (that you initiated the photos being taken) correct? If so, what is the copyright status? If these are freely licensed images, could you make them available as individual files as well? That would be super-helpful, as we do not have images for all MPs on Wikipedia.

I look forward to their response. Schwede 66 21:31, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, it didn't occur to me that there might be any issue with this.

I note that this image is credited to the Office of the Clerk here, and on their Copyright page it says that CC-BY 4.0 applies for such material. The exclusion you seem to be referring to is only mentioned under the section about content provided to the site by third parties.

Is your concern that, while at least the photo itself is attributed to the Office of the Clerk, the copyright for the subject matter of the photo might lie with someone else? I would assume (I know, "When you assume...") that this was a commissioned work and so the copyright would be transferred to whoever commissioned it.--Radicuil (talk) 10:22, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. The photos were supplied by the various parties. The Office of the Clerk assembled this into a shield, but the copyright still rests with the various parties or their photographers. The exact response received from parliamentary services is quoted with the deletion request. Don't worry, you are by no means the first person who has uploaded photos from the parliamentary website that are excluded from the freely licensed information held by them. Schwede 66 00:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]