Talk:6th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea

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"6th" or "Sixth"?[edit]

In copyediting the article, I noticed that a major source in the bibliography uses the word instead of the number (at least in its title); this would also be in accordance with the MOS. Should I change it (i.e. move the page)? All the best, Miniapolis 02:52, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Miniapolis: Its called the 18th National Congress of the Communist Party of China, 10th National Congress of the Communist Party of Vietnam, 23rd Congress of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the 6th Congress of the Communist Party of Cuba, 112th United States Congress.. Numbers are more common. --TIAYN (talk) 17:09, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, although 6th Congress of the Communist Party of Cuba is the only relevant example since the MOS recommends spelling numbers one through nine. I noticed that you moved that article to its numerical spelling; the MOS defers to use in RS, which are split between numerical and spelled-out in that article. Miniapolis 17:43, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Miniapolis: 9th Congress of the Russian Communist Party (Bolsheviks), the 9th National Congress of the Communist Party of Vietnam, 9th Congress of the Lao People's Revolutionary Party, 9th Congress of the Philippines, 9th Congress of the Sammarinese Communist Party (this should probably be deleted), Kansas's 2nd congressional district and so on and so on. --TIAYN (talk) 18:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:6th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Midnightblueowl (talk · contribs) 19:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC) This looks like an interesting article, and I'd be happy to tackle it, TIAN! Midnightblueowl (talk) 19:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction:

Done "in Pyongyang..." ; mention that the city is in North Korea.
Done Put a link in to the Workers' Party of Korea here, and perhaps give a brief sentence explaining that this was the country's primary governing party.
DoneAbbreviations such as WPK and KWP are used without specifying what they are.
Done "The move was criticised..." – maybe briefly explain why it was criticised ?
Done "his son Kim Jong-il his successor"; maybe change to "his son Kim Jong-il as his successor..."

Preparations:

DoneMaybe state the year in which the 5th conference took place ?

Delegates and attendees:

Done "The 6th Congress was attended by 3,062 delegates with voting rights[2] and 158 without them; this marked an increase of 1,349 voting and 137 non-voting delegates from the 5th Congress.[2]" – you really don't need to cite the same reference twice in this single sentence.

The Congress:

"Done After the opening remarks, the congress' agenda was decided:[4] "(1) Summing up the work of the Party Central Committee; (2) Evaluation of the work of the Party Central Auditing Committee; (3) Revision of the Party Rules and (4) Election of the central leading agencies of the Party."[4]" Again, no need for the repeated reference in a single sentence.
Who is Lee Nak-bin ?
- I honestly don't know, I searched google, and got two hits (this article, a book, and a redirect to WP).. He's clearly a one-hit wonder, or more precise, the political system is so closed to the outside we don't know the majority of the non-Politburo leadership. --TIAYN (talk) 19:38, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done "41.4 percent, compared with 72.2 percent" – perhaps use "%" ?

1st Plenum:

Done "Thirty-four members" = "34 members"
Done "percentage" = % ?

Kim Jong-il as successor

Done "Kim Yong-ju is believed" – why is this in the present tense, and who believed that ? Be specific.
"Critics" – who are they ?
- Source doesn't say, but probably a lot of people from the left to the right.... --TIAYN (talk) 19:38, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done "Joseph Stalin received by his successor" – this should be "received from..."

Other thoughts:

Maybe we could have some pictures of Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-Il ? Perhaps in a multiple image box ?
- A none-free image? Does that work? --TIAYN (talk) 19:38, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - How about this image: File:Mansudae Grand Monument 08.JPG ? Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Midnightblueowl: I uploaded a non-free one (since we don't have access to any free pictures from this specific historical event...) --TIAYN (talk) 20:31, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Done Perhaps rename the "Unification" section "Korean Unification" ?
Done Consider dividing the footnotes into three columns rather than two; I think that it would look a little neater. But it's not essential by any means.

Generally this is all very good; these are just some points that I noticed. Fix these, and it should pass without a problem. Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, another great article, TIAYN. I'm happy to pass this as a GA. Well done! Midnightblueowl (talk) 23:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]