Talk:7.62×53mmR

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bullet diamter in the box on the right ist different to bullet diameter mentioned in the text (see comparison between x53 and x54) neck diameter in the box on the right is different from neck diameter in the drawing

Agree. There needs to be consistency here. See my comment below. 58.165.123.47 (talk) 05:21, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Bullet diameter[edit]

The current text states: "Bullet diameter: 7.83 mm (54R: 7.92)". According to the diagram entitled Cartridge dimensions, however, the diameter of the 7.62x53mmR bullet is 7.85 mm. According to the table in the right hand column entitled Specifications, the diameter of the 7.62x53mmR bullet is 7.85 mm. I'm assuming on this basis that the correct value is 7.85 mm and am amending the text entry accordingly. If, in fact, the diameter of the 7.62x53mmR bullet is 7.83mm, then a reliable source needs to be cited, and all three entries in the article need to amended accordingly and consistently. 58.165.123.47 (talk) 05:19, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I provided links to the relevant current C.I.P. TDCC's in the external references section. These PDF data sheets contain the G1 rulings that express the maximum bullet diameters for these two cartridges. It might be hard to accept for some editors from non C.I.P. member states that these maximum diameters have the status of binding law for all civilians in C.I.P. member states. Finland and Russia are both C.I.P. member states and it will be hard to get a more reliable source than the law in these countries. Only governmental organizations, like military and police forces and other firearms bearing public power agencies, from the C.I.P. member states are legally exempted from having to comply with C.I.P. rulings. This does not automatically imply that all firearms and ammunitions used by governmental organizations in C.I.P. member states are not C.I.P. compliant, since those organizations often choose to self-impose the relevant C.I.P. standards for their service firearms and ammunition.--Francis Flinch (talk) 10:08, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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