Talk:ABUS

This article is rated Stub-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Germany Low‑importance

	Germany portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Germany, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Germany on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GermanyWikipedia:WikiProject GermanyTemplate:WikiProject GermanyGermany articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Brands Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Brands, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of brands on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BrandsWikipedia:WikiProject BrandsTemplate:WikiProject BrandsBrands articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Companies Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Companies, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of companies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CompaniesWikipedia:WikiProject CompaniesTemplate:WikiProject Companiescompany articles

Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Companies To-do:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies
Assess : Category:Unassessed company articles
Copyedit : Category:Company articles needing attention
Infobox : Category:Company articles needing infoboxes
Maintain : Portal:Companies
Stubs : Help expand stub articles located at Category:Company stubs
Other :
- Tag company articles with the {{portal|Companies}} template
- Tag company talk pages with the {{WikiProject Companies}} project banner
- Answer requests for comments

Untitled[edit]

The current UK distributor is actually:

http://www.phoenixnw.co.uk/abus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.33.247 (talk) 20:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ABUS is located in Northrhine-Westphalia - not in Hesse 87.78.192.22 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:27, 16 July 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Propose move (rename) this page from ABUS to August Bremicker und Söhne KG[edit]

ABUS can them become a disambiguation page as there are other uses of ABUS. eg Automated Breast Ultrasound System [1] - Rod57 (talk) 11:49, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that ABUS is the world's biggest manufacturer of padlocks and bicycle locks, it seems to far outstrip other uses of the name, to the extent that this could serve as the default article IMHO. – AndyFielding (talk) 12:13, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bike Locks[edit]

This makes me think of adding something about their bike locks. Omysfysfybmm (talk) 02:00, 11 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on ABUS. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140819084024/http://www.alarm-technik.eu/info.php to http://www.alarm-technik.eu/info.php

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 00:45, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Methodical redaction?[edit]

From Family Ownership section:

The [ABUS-owning] family belongs to the evangelical exclusive wing of the Plymouth Brethren (Brüderbewegung), a church movement that originated in the 19th century. The family's religious orientation also affects the company, whose mission statement is shaped by the church's principles.

Until recently (see Jan. 2023 Archive.org record), this said (difference bolded):

The family's religious orientation also affects the company. The company's self-portrayal refers to the fact that the company's mission statement is shaped by Christian principles. The equal participation of female family members in the company is rejected. There is therefore no woman among the KG shareholders. In order to exclude the succession of daughters, so-called inheritance waiver agreements have been concluded in the past.

I've found references to this alleged policy elsewhere (including references to articles where similar details have been similarly, mysteriously expunged). I don't know if the allegation's true, but the Plymouth Brethren's website has this to say about its position regarding women (Bible citations omitted):

With regard to such matters as salvation or acceptance before God, woman is on an equality with man... This does not mean, however, that differences of sex are abolished in the church. When dealing with matters of everyday life, the Scriptures distinguish between male and female. Therefore, we may say that as far as her standing before God is concerned, woman is treated exactly the same as man; but that as far as her position in the church is concerned, a distinction is made. The distinction, in brief, is that woman should be in subjection to the man...
Specifically, the following injunctions are laid down in the Word in order to define the various ways in which the subjection of the woman is to be manifested. She must remain silent in the church. What is meant by “remaining silent” is further explained. She is not permitted to teach. She should not ask questions publicly. She should learn in silence with all subjection. She must not usurp authority over the man.

Curiously, there's nothing about any of this here. If the assertion was unfounded, shouldn't there have been some discussion about its removal, or at least a note to deter it from being re-added?
If ABUS does actually mandate the exclusion of women from its ownership and management (assuming that's still even legal in Germany), it seems like something consumers should be able to read about here, protected from vandalism. – 2001:569:50B1:6A00:F9E8:9817:968E:398D (talk) 07:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]