Talk:aUI (constructed language)

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Cosmicomandi (talk · contribs) This user has declared a connection. (I am the daughter of W. John Weilgart, author of aUI; I grew up learning and working with aUI, attending all my father's aUI weekly classes at Luther College, Decorah, IA (1968-1976), and typing his shorthand manuscripts in stacks of binders. I have invested heavily in having a professional typeface designer develop the self-stacking font for aUI, shown here.)

Untitled[edit]

See the AfD debate below for where to start. -Splash^talk 18:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for Deletion debate[edit]

This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Splash^talk 18:34, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Removing the prod tag[edit]

Per the AfD discussion mentioned above, I believe there is no reason at all to doubt the notability of the subject in question. A book has been written about it, and that cannot be said of many other artificial languages represented here. Since the prod tag says "Please remove this message when you've improved the article, or if you otherwise object to deletion", this is exactly what I'm going to do. If people feel that the article is too short or something, I would recommend using the conlangstub template instead. —IJzeren Jan _{In mij legge alle fogultjes een ij} 11:55, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV[edit]

the very last bit under the external links seems rather POV to me. sounds like something you'd see on someone's blog as opposed to wikipedia. cma 09:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of interesting idea, but it goes against what linguists call Duality of patterning... AnonMoos (talk) 18:03, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciations POV[edit]

The pronunciations are POV. "A as in water" is of no help whatsoever - "water" as pronounced where? Please replace with IPA. — Paul G (talk) 13:56, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I tried, but without knowing the author's dialect I don't know the difference between "e in bend" and "ai in hair". In view of parallel contrasts I could assume it's /ɛ/ vs /e/, but that would be only a guess. —Tamfang (talk) 23:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hell, I'll do it anyway. —Tamfang (talk) 23:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for contributing, and I declare that between you and me, our guesses are unanimous! I'd bet that Weilgart's dialect in fine detail is sui generis, given his of who-knows-what-where childhood and upbringing, then university degrees in central Europe (and half his publications being in German), then being in the US Midwest via all sorts of places... This is all from stuff I see in a book about aUI that I stumbled on in a used bookstore in LA in the 1980s, aUI - The Language of Space, "third enriched edition with encyclopedia", 1974. Wowza! Also, when I skimmed thru this, I think I might have seen mention of a record that accompanied some or other material about aUI that Weilgart put out. I'll try to look into it. —68.151.59.175 (talk) 21:51, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about all the confusion; that's what happens when different people edit. I will go through and update soon, just don't have time now. I am having a new website built: aUILanguage.space , currently in progress, so not everything works yet. As daughter of W. John Weilgart and having learned aUI during my childhood, I feel the most qualified...thanks. Andrea Weilgart Patten Cosmicomandi (talk) 17:50, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

aUI Glyphs[edit]

aUI's glyphs really are what makes it so interesting. This article doesn't have any illustrations of them at the moment... which is understandable, since there's no Unicode block for them or anything. So I'll see if I can scan a few examples out of the aUI book that I have. Or I can scan show the title page, which shows all the glyphs, and then I can caption that. The http://home.centurytel.net/languageofspace/ site has plenty of examples, and a low-rez version of the title page that I mentioned: http://home.centurytel.net/languageofspace/aui_symbol_bg.JPG ... Hm, either I get to figure out how to copyright-clear images for being in Wikipedia, or I go learn a vector graphics drawing program to make a de-novo SVG of each symbol and upload that to Wikipedia. Yay! —Sean M. Burke (talk) 22:23, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One loophole -- abstract character shapes from a text font, or rendered glyphs from a text font, are not copyrightable under United States law. If there's an aUI font, then your task would be much easier... AnonMoos (talk) 00:32, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have spent mucho to have a special, self-stacking aUI font designed, maybe I can have that uploaded soon.

Andrea Weilgart Patten Cosmicomandi (talk) 17:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation of y*[edit]

This article doesn't say how y* ("zero") is pronounced. The asterisk means nasalized, but the phonetic value of lowercase y remains unclear.

In most cases lowercase vowel letters repesent phonemes that are slightly opener (=lower) than the phonemes represented by their uppercase counterparts. Is y* therefore pronounced /ʏ̃/, though there is no /ʏ/ this corresponds to? Or maybe /ỹ/, nasalizing the existent phoneme /y/ that is written as an uppercase Y ("negation")? Or is it something entirely different, perhaps the nasalized version of a "neutral" schwa /ə/, as in Lojban orthography, and reminiscent of Russian where the vowel that slavicists romanize as y is also central? (After all, "zero" is something intrinsically neutral as well, isn't it?) Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 14:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

y preceding vowels is /j/; Y preceding consonants is /y/ - always the opposite, as its meaning implies. I will be correcting the IPA soon. Andrea Weilgart Patten Cosmicomandi (talk) 18:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

COI tag (July 2022)[edit]

Cosmicomandi has stated, over email to me, that they are the daughter of W. John Weilgart. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 14:20, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]