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On 29 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Shishuo Xinyu. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Merger proposal[edit]

Proposal to merge Shi Shuo Xin Yu into this article. Discuss here. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 05:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support. These are duplicate articles about the same text. Keahapana (talk) 01:33, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support It looks like Shi Shuo Xin Yu is machine translated from the Chinese, but it doesn't seem to be the Chinese Wikipedia (here) ch (talk) 03:21, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 29 December 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A New Account of the Tales of the World → Shishuo Xinyu – "Shishuo Xinyu" is used basically everywhere except for translations of the book. Searching for "Shishuo Xinyu" on Google produces way more results than a search of "New Account of the Tales of the World", which only gives book listings and Wikipedia mirrors. Mucube (talk • contribs) 20:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. The Night Watch (talk) 20:22, 6 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. >>> Extorc.talk 05:50, 14 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:12, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Per WP:NCBOOK and WP:UE, the translated name is exactly what we should use. 162 etc. (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Except that NCBOOK says that when a transcription or transliteration of a title originally not in Latin alphabet, is better known, and/or less ambiguous, that version of the title can be used. And WP:UE does not mean "translate the term", but it means to use the most common name in English-language sources. Mucube is claiming that the sources predominantly use the Chinese name, we should use it. There is nothing in NCBOOK and UE that the requester's argument contradicts. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:01, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

However, @Mucube should back up their argument that '"Shishuo Xinyu" is used basically everywhere except for translations of the book' with evidence of English-language articles referring to the book by the Chinese name, e.g. with quoted examples of such usage. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:03, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Can the requester's assertion that '"Shishuo Xinyu" is used basically everywhere except for translations of the book' be proven or disproven by examining English-language articles about the subject? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:12, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.