Talk:Abu Anas al-Libi

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Photo[edit]

Al-Liby's photo on this page is covered in grafitti. Could we please get a better photo, or simply the same one without the pen and ink defacement? 207.45.43.68 (talk) 13:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No free photo[edit]

FBI photo was deemed not free and removed, see commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Anas al-Liby.jpg. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:20, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

U.K. asylum claim[edit]

The U.K. government recently denied the longstanding reports, repeated in this article, that al-Libi had political asylum in the U.K. See http://terminalia.weebly.com/1/post/2013/11/uk-refuses-to-explain-how-it-became-home-to-al-qaeda-suspect.html Jtcarpet (talk) 17:29, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anas al Libi or Abu Anas al Libi[edit]

There are two kinds of names people from Arabic cultures use. Names assigned near birth -- their equivalent of a "christening name" are one form. Those names are complicated, and I won't explain them here, or explain why it is a mistake to try to shoehorn them into a Europeanized schema where those individuals inherit a surname.

The name "Abu Anas al Libi" is the other form of name. Abu means "father". Al Libi means the bearer is from Libya. So Abu Anas al Libi means that guy from Libya whose son is named Anas. Arab volunteers who go to some other country routinely use this second form of name

Earlier today I found this article at the obviously wrong name Anas al Libi. So I moved it to Abu Anas al Libi. Geo Swan (talk) 01:28, 10 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Improper sourcing and personalized language[edit]

"A February 2007 Human Rights Watch document[15] falsely claimed that al-Libi and others "may have once been held" in secret detention by the CIA.

On 7 June 2007, al-Libi was listed as a possible CIA "Secret Prisoner" by Amnesty International, without giving any reason or evidence, and despite the fact he remained on the FBI Most Wanted Terrorists list as of the published date (6 June 2007).[16]"

The above two passages are not stable source language. The footnotes point to Human Rights Watch article but then directly accuses the footnote of lying or being false. And the second makes a footnote irrelivant with Amnesty International Article but sounds as if CIA or Government or similar voice is simply refuting but without source either. Not good for the reader. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:E:2080:5AF:DCCA:7778:F11F:DD61 (talk) 16:19, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

New Article[edit]

A new article has been published on the Associated Press website by Maggie Michael called "Libyan Charged in 1998 US Embassy Bombings Dies." The article was published on January 3rd, 2014 and has some new and updated information on Abu Anas al Libi's life as well as recent death that might be beneficial for this Wikipedia article. It might be worthwhile to read through carefully. The article can be found at this web link: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EMBASSY_BOMBINGS_AL_LIBI?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-01-03-08-49-57. Best, Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 16:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have added this as a source in the "Death" section. 173.162.252.241 (talk) 00:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Claims about the Manchester Manual[edit]

The life section claims a manual found in al Libi's apartment in Manchester, later known as the Manchester Manual, was "written for al Qaeda followers". The FBI made a translation of that manual available, online. The manual does not identify itself as "written for al Qaeda followers".

It was written for dissidents in totalitarian muslim regimes. OBL's group was merely one group among conservative muslims -- right at the very extreme. The manual's readership was a much larger group of dissidents. For reasons we can only speculate at US intelligence analysts routinely conflate all muslim dissidents with al Qaeda.

This paragraph has a single reference. Shouldn't this claim be attributed to the author of that book? Geo Swan (talk) 05:38, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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