Talk:Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception

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Real world or strangeworld?[edit]

As far as I know Ace Combat 3 was not set in the "strangereal" world no?

Can someone confirm either way?

  • Electrosphere is set at the end of the main AC timeline, I believe. Also, the JP version actually had a story, unlike the US release. Onikage725

As far as I know it isn't, however, I fail to see how this has any relevence to Ace Combat X.

Cbale2000 ____________ All i know is that Ace Combat Zero has more real life aircraft. The fictional planes look kinda crapy.

Fenrir[edit]

About Fenrir , unfortunatley , I cannot make an article/page on the aircraft , as on the game itself , it lacks detail about the plane , simply refering to it as "an advanced fighter with tactical data gathered on the gleipnir" , however , there is certainly enough information to make an article/page about the Gleipnir , ad it would count as an ace combat super weapon. Alexander mac 21:03 , 19 November (UTC)


Fenrir[edit]

Added some more details to the initial Fenrir information; noticed that the fighter still lacks an article for itself. I'm still new to Wikipedia, so making a new article is out of my league, but if anyone does make such a page I'd be glad to contribute. Kalthuras 21:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Made it yesterday.Sam ov the blue sand 01:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Removed Fenrir background information from the ACX page, as it is already available on the Fenrir page. Feel free to revert, but I feel like having it posted in both places strengthens the merge argument. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kalthuras (talk • contribs) 00:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Gah. I have to stop forgetting my tildes. Kalthuras 00:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Newly confirmed information[edit]

The official ACX website (http://www.acecombat.jp/ace-x/top.htm) has confirmed both the games Control schemes (I beleive there are 3), as well as several of the Special Weapons. However, the website itself is in Japanese and not having any knowlage of the language I don't want to base any information I would post here on just the pictures that the website provides. If someone would translate that part of the site and edit the article as nessesary it would be most appreciated. Cbale2000 18:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plot Summary[edit]

Whoever keeps on putting the sentence that says that Gryphus Squadron is secret. Stop it. Gryphus Squadron is well known to the Aurelian military, as well as to Aurelia's civilians, and the rest of the world. If he was secret, there wouldn't be newspaper articles about Gryphus 1's role in the liberation of Griswall. 24.115.12.172 03:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Excuse me, sir, but Gryphus Squadron IS SECRET. Ever tried to read the manual? It says "To save their country, the Gryphus Squadron--a border defence force UNKOWN to even the Aurelian people". But then again what you said is somewhat true as Gyrphus squadron was unkown to Aurelians at first. They later became famous and became the symbol of freedom. By the way it's not me who keeps putting that sentence. I haven't been around for a while. Chief of Naval Operations 11:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I suppose you might find it hard to believe, but yes, I actually have tried reading the manual. Amazing, eh? Yes, the manual says that Gryphus squadron is secret, but I have a few couple objections to that. Firstly, the manual is from Namco's US branch, which claims on the official ACX website that ACX is "Set in an entirely new world and setting apart from installments on the Playstation 2 computer entertainment system," when Ace Combat X is rather obviously the same world as every other AC, with the exceptions of Ace/Air Combat and Ace Combat Advance. Secondly is SurgicalStrikes's points, which I agree with wholeheartedly.24.115.12.172 03:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Look man, I'm just trying to tell you what is written in the manual. Phrase they use is what makes most people beleive Gryphus is secret. Sorry if I offended you, okay? Chief of Naval Operations 22:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • True, but that doesn't mean that the squadron itself is secret. That just states that they don't know about it. At the beginning of the story, they're just another squad of military pilots. Think of it this way: the United States Air Force has a lot of squadrons that people don't know about, but few of them are actually secret. It's likely that the Aurelian Gryphus Squadron is the same way. SurgicalStrike 04:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Albert Genette[edit]

Someone provide information confiming that the reporter is in fact Albert Genette. No characters have ever physically appeared twice in a different title, I doubt the Aces Team will start now.

  • Firstly, there is a VA credited as playing Albert Genette. Secondly, there is a newpaper article the narrator wrote. When it is shown on the front cover of a paper, it says (underneath the headline) "By Abert Genette." Thirdly, in a cutscene, another reporter calls him "Albert" (with an, IMO, really phony French accent). 24.115.12.172 17:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion[edit]

Ok what if I was to write the entire plot of ACX, all the twists and turns like what we have for AC5 it would take me some time if anyone would like to help I would greatly apprehiate (I spelled it wrong) it. I would like a couple of answers before starting.Sam ov the blue sand 21:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like where this anonymous IP address was going with converting the aircraft list into a detailed table, but I'm not sure that whether or not the aircraft are carrier based is significant. If it means the aircraft fly with a different mission time parameter due to different distance and fueling, then alright; but otherwise it seems kind of off. Kalthuras 21:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Aircraft List seems to have all of the aircraft there, but not some... I don't have this game so i don't know. --IrfanFaiz 13:58, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
no offense, but if you don't have the game then don't comment on which aircraft are there and which are not. I have the game and all the aircraft, so believe me they are all there.Sam ov the blue sand 01:05, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

External links[edit]

In responce to the edit done by Combination on 13:03, 22 December 2006...

Perhaps the ACS.com link was unnessesary (even though it is recognized on the official Namco forum as a good fansite), however, the Electrosphere has more info on Ace Combat than any other site on the internet including Wikipedia, in fact, much of the information for the Ace Combat articles here was taken from the Electrosphere. Besides, both links are in most of the other Ace Combat articles. Cbale2000 16:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

The table of aircraft on this page contains a lot of irrelevant information that is only helpful as a reference to those who are playing the game, and thus violates WP:NOT "Wikipedia is not a game guide." A much more appropriate format would be that used by Ace_Combat_3:_Electrosphere. I don't have time to fix this now, but I will come back to it unless someone beats me to it. Nimrand 01:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No shit, I was planing on doing it myself but I'm pissed right now so you can do it.Sam ov the blue sand 01:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, didn't notice that a previous comment had already addressed this. But, Sam, you shouldn't edits to your contributions personally. All content contributed to wikipedia will be edited mercilessly, as is noted on the bottom of the page when you edit content. Since wikipedia is a collaborative effort in which anyone can participate, wikipedia needs high standards for its content, including limiting the information that articles can contain to what is appropriate for an encyclopedia. That means, as someone who contributes to wikipedia, you have to be prepared to allow others to edit your contributions or delete it entirely if it is determined that doing so would improve wikipedia as an encyclopedia. It may seem cruel, as I imagine you worked quite hard on the article that was deleted, but if it were any other way wikipedia would quickly become unusable. Nimrand 03:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Again, no shit, I don't WP:OWN any article and I've had this lecture before by Someguy 0830 so don't lecture me on things I already know.Sam ov the blue sand 23:13, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Then stop using profanity when responding to my comments. I have done nothing to deserve it. Thats all I'll say on the matter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nimrand (talk • contribs) 06:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I couldn't find my smiley face pic so there was no way to tell you that it was sarcasim, a mere joke, I'm sorry if I offened you in any way.Sam ov the blue sand 00:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realize you were being sarcastic. No harm done. Nimrand 03:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

removed article[edit]

Why was the article on fictional aircraft deleted? there is now no information on the Forneus, Fregata, Apalis, or Cariburn. 68.97.110.192 00:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on it to fix it. Anyone can help here please find another source.Sam ov the blue sand 00:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's gone now, I had Proto delete it for me since no one seemed to care.Sam ov the blue sand 00:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ACX Fictional Aircraft[edit]

Any one can help the cleanup of ACX Fictional Airctaft right here. A new source of info would be great.Sam ov the blue sand 01:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

B rated article[edit]

I want to make this article a B rated article (hell if AC5 can do it we can too) so I will require help to do so, more on the plot and gameplay will be needed so please help.Sam ov the blue sand 05:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Although writing the plot will be diffulcult if people with the game would help that would be great.Sam ov the blue sand 19:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

May I suggest using a flow chart to represent different branches of the game? En51cm 02:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly.Sam ov the blue sand 00:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eigth Installment[edit]

I'm not sure if this is the eigth game. I think it is the seventh, but If you could please confirm that would be wonderful. (Ace Combat 1-5, Ace combat 0, and now X is 7)

Prep111 17:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ace Combat X is the 10th game in the series made by Namco (hence the X, for Roman Numeral 10). As for canonical installments, I'm not sure of the status. I'll post any info I find. PrinceForte 06:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Namco actually called it X because they say it is the "level of excellence", not the tenth game. Hence that Ace Combat Zero isn't the "zeroth" game, the number (or letter) doesn't have to be tied to the position in the series. "Zero" might mean something like "Zero hour" (possibly referring to June 6th, 1995), rather than a position.--84.131.68.49 13:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


  • ^^Sorry dude, not even close. Ace Combat Zero is named as so as it is apparantly the earliest official setting in the "alternate Earth" (set around 10-12 years before AC4 Distant Thunder), although Ace Combat 2 is supposed take place on the Usean continent, I've never seen this referenced in my copy of Ace 2. Ace Combat X IS the tenth in the series of Ace Combat games overall. The progression goes like this:
  • 1. Air Combat (Arcade -1992)
  • 2. Air Combat (PS1, Ace Combat in Japan -1995)
  • 3. Air Combat 22 (Arcade -also known as CAP 22 -1995)
  • 4. Ace Combat 2(-1997)
  • 5. Ace Combat 3 Electrosphere (-1999)
  • 6. Ace Combat 4 Distant Thunder (-2001)
  • 7. Ace Combat 5 Squadron Leader (-2004)
  • 8. Ace Combat Advance (-2005)
  • 9. Ace Combat Zero The Belkan War (-2006)
  • 10. Ace Combat X Skies of Deception (-2006)
  • 11. Ace Combat 6 Fires of Liberation (-2007)

(Bobbo9000 06:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Bobbo9000)[reply]

Reception[edit]

Most game-related articles have some notable statistics or comments about the reception that the game recieved on launch. Could anyone comment on the reception this game got? Scottdavies (talk) 21:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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