Talk:Adirondack Experience

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User:Duke53 removed the phrase (The Wild Center) from the See also section with the comment "We are trying to get away from that "Wild Center" thing:

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Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks (The Wild Center)

While I can appreciate that the original title of the wikipedia article on the museum was awkward at best, until the museum stops marketing itself as the Wild Center, it would seem foolish for us to avoid mentioning the alternate title. Actually, given the naming conventions' call for article titles to use the most common name of a thing, one could make a case that the museum article ought to be titled The Wild Center. I am not advocating that, but I do feel strongly that we should mention the best-known name of the museum parenthetically wherever the proper name appears. -- Mwanner | Talk 00:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The 'best-known name' is Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks, since that is how it was founded and funded. Pretty simple, actually. Duke53 | ^Talk 00:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right, and that's why, as I indicated, I have no argument with how the article is presently titled. A separate issue entirely, though, is whether it's appropriate to include parenthetically the name under which they choose to market themselves, simply because many readers may be unfamiliar with their formal name, due to the marketing history. -- Mwanner | Talk 01:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First, a warning that you are getting close to a 3RR violation. Second, have you ever 'parenthetically' re-titled any OTHER museum on their pages? None that I can see. In the name of being factual (as an encuclopedia should be) do not give a new name to something simply because you like its marketing campaign. Duke53 | ^Talk 02:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not re-titling anything, I am following the example of the article itself, which begins "The Natural History Museum of the Adirondacks (nicknamed and marketed as The Wild Center)". Why is that same approach not acceptable here?

Please note that I have no issue at all with the title of the NHMA article. And I am not the least bit fond of its marketing campaign; I simply recognize that a lot of our readers will only be familiar with it under that name, so it should be mentioned parenthetically (not substituted for the correct title). -- Mwanner | Talk 02:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And as per this edit -- Mwanner | Talk 02:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Museum and Wild Center are different[edit]

I'm not sure if either of the previous posts are from people who have ever been to either the Adirondack Museum or the Wild Center but if you do a quick Google search it is quite apparent that although both of these nonprofit organizations, they are separate entities. The Adirondack (ADK) Museum is located Blue Mountain Lake, NY and is a museum which focuses on the ecology of the Adirondack Mountains and more so on "the history of man's relation to the Adirondacks" ^[1]. The Wild Center began operation in 2004, is located in Tupper Lake, NY, and is more scientifically focused on the respective species the Adirondacks. ^[2]

^ [1], Adirondack Museum - About Us
^ [2],The Wild Center - About Us

[1] [1], Adirondack Museum - About Us

[2] [2],The Wild Center - About Us

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