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AgustaWestland is now Finmeccanica-Helicopters. (As of Dec 31, 2015, this information is incorrect.)

To the person who maintains the AgustaWestland Wikipedia website.

Well, if you can believe it, Finmeccanica went the same way as Airbus Group. Background about Airbus Group: Eurocopter was a helicopter division of EADS (or European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company) and Eurocopter was in existence from 1992 to 2013 (21 years).[1] EADS officially changed their name to Airbus Group[2] and then Eurocopter's name was changed to Airbus Helicopters. All these name changes officially took place as of January 1, 2014.

Now, Finmeccanica just announced they will have a "One Company" initiative and AgustaWestland will now be called Finmeccanica-Helicopters.[3] You can see an official press release with the name change on Vertical Magazine's website here: www.verticalmag.com/news/article/Finmeccanica-launches-One-Company.[4] While I can't confirm their exact name change using Finmeccanica's website, unfortunately, according to the Vertical Magazine's article, AgustaWestland's new name will be Finmeccanica-Helicopters. However, AgustaWestland's website is already gone and if you type www.agustawestland.com[5] into a browser, it will automatically change to www.finmeccanica.com.[6]

As of Tuesday, December 29, 2015, the helicopter division's landing web page on Finmeccanica's website is here: www.finmeccanica.com/en/product-services/helicopters.[7]

Finmeccanica's "One Company" initiative name change officially occurs on January 1, 2016.

However, I may be wrong, a Tweet by AgustaWestland today, December 30, 2015, here: https://twitter.com/AgustaWestland[8] claims that the AgustaWestland brand will still be used but the Twitter account will be changed to @Finmeccanica-Helicopters. This is becoming very confusing. Mikewest (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Facepalm Facepalm What's next? Sikorsky becoming Lockheed Martin Helicopters, or perhaps Bell Helicopters becoming Textron Rotorcraft? - BilCat (talk) 19:16, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

My comment is for the moderator of this page. However, to answer your question, with Airbus Helicopters getting rid of the wonderful name of Eurocopter, isn't it obvious that if some corporate suits at Lockheed or Textron are vying for a power play, or whatever they want to call it (such as to increase the efficiency and effectiveness of their company), that Sikorsky or Bell could go the same way. Of course this could happen.

However, I just emailed AgustaWestland right now via their Twitter account and they said that AgustaWestland's name is not changing. I'm hoping that that is the case for now and in the future. However, AgustaWestland's name is suspiciously not on the Finmeccanica's helicopter landing page.[9] Mikewest (talk) 19:33, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

WP doesn't use moderators. Instead, users collaborate on the upkeep of articles, of which I am one. Thanks for your information and research of sources. Who knows how this will turn out, but it is interesting to watch. - BilCat (talk) 19:38, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Okay thanks for your comment. I don't still don't understand how Wikipedia pages are updated but for now, it looks like as of this point in time, AgustaWestland's name will not change. Mikewest (talk) 23:37, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

One last comment, Vertical Magazine gave an update at the end of their article stating that the "AgustaWestland brand will continue to be used"[10]; however, Vertical did not update their error(?) concerning the name change in the photo caption of that same article. 68.8.100.70 (talk) 13:59, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Helicopters,_Inc.
  2. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_Group
  3. ^ http://www.verticalmag.com/news/article/Finmeccanica-launches-One-Company
  4. ^ http://www.verticalmag.com/news/article/Finmeccanica-launches-One-Company
  5. ^ http://www.agustawestland.com
  6. ^ http://www.finmeccanica.com/
  7. ^ http://www.finmeccanica.com/en/product-services/helicopters
  8. ^ https://twitter.com/AgustaWestland
  9. ^ http://www.finmeccanica.com/en/product-services/helicopters
  10. ^ http://www.verticalmag.com/news/article/Finmeccanica-launches-One-Company

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Requested move 16 November 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. Opinions are divided and consensus could not be achieved. Mahveotm (talk) 17:36, 1 December 2017 (UTC)


AgustaWestland → Leonardo Helicopters – new name, Leonardo S.p.A. subsidiary Marc Lacoste (talk) 14:15, 16 November 2017 (UTC)-- --Relisting. Mahveotm (talk) 20:07, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Support - per nom. - BilCat (talk) 14:36, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Oppose - this article appears to be entirely about the historical entity AgustaWestland, and the infobox even says it became defunct in 2015. I don't see a need to rename, just because the new parent company is manufacturing helicopters. That would be a new article if anything. This is similar to Cheltenham & Gloucester, which was subsumed by Lloyds Bank, but for whcih we still have an independent article.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:06, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
There is no new entity, it just renamed itself Leonardo Helicopters [1]. This is different than C&G which was closed. The historical articles are Agusta and Westland Helicopters, before the 2001 merge.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 13:49, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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