Talk:Ahlam al-Nasr

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neutrality[edit]

The following sentence and reference have been repeatedly removed from the article for "NPOV": "She is considered one of the Islamic State's most famous propagandists and gives detailed defences of terrorist acts." [1]. I don't see how this sentence is un-neutral and I find that it summarises reliable sources on the subject. -- haminoon (talk) 11:32, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

the word 'terrorist' is specifically discourged in (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch) and 'propagandist' is also NPOV

How about I fix the sentence for you: something like this: "She is known as prominent ideological defender of the Islamic State's actions." That is how you write a sentence on WikipediaSamwelltarly1 (talk) 11:36, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Did you actually read the MOS? It discourages calling individuals terrorists, which doesn't apply in this case. Nothing wrong with propagandist either - in fact it is the defining feature of her work. We even have categories on Wikipedia for propagandists (eg: Nazi propagandists). -- haminoon (talk) 11:44, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

no, the word terrorist is discouraged whether it is applied to an individual, a group or the actions of an individual/group. I gave you a neutral way to write what you wanted and you just ignored it, an obvious sign of your bad faith editing. propagandist is today a derogatory description, however much you might want to argue that it is a 'neutral' term. when another editor complains and asks for a better term, and even gives you one, you should accept it instead of arguing in bad faith.Samwelltarly1 (talk) 11:48, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]