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The French and German articles are far better. If I can follow the French I might try to add stuff from it later.--T. Anthony 07:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmad Abdul Malik is not of Sudanese but of Caribbean decent. Both of his parents are from St. Vincent, in the British West Indies. see Robin D. Kelley (2012) Africa Speaks, America Answers p. 92 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.97.38 (talk) 03:16, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong dates "Later life" section[edit]

He taught my music class in JHS 281 in the late 70s or early 80s. Maybe he taught strings too but he didn't teach my class strings.

74.90.217.230 (talk) 17:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is "Sudanese"?[edit]

The article states that Abdul-Malik taught "Sudanese," but that is not, to my knowledge, a language. Perhaps the text is referring to Sudanese Arabic? If so, can someone find a reference for this, then specify which language it was?

The first source (Kelley) states that he spoke Arabic fluently (which form is not stated). "Jazz Star Heads YIA Musical Arts Program" (September 3, 1966). New York Amsterdam News, p.46 states that he spoke Arabic and Swahili. Neither of these answers your question directly, but they provide an indication of what the answer is likely to be. EddieHugh (talk) 22:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What is right[edit]

The article starts like this..... Abdul-Malik claimed that his father was from Sudan and moved to the United States. Research by historian Robin Kelley, however, indicates that Abdul-Malik was born to Caribbean immigrants and changed his birth name. Is anybody sures that the immigrants were not Sudanes?--Drcenjary (talk) 09:51, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. From the same source (p92): "Ahmed Abdul-Malik was born Jonathan Tim Jr., (sometimes spelled "Timm") on January 30, 1927, to Matilda and Jonathan Tim Sr. – both of whom had immigrated from St. Vincent in the British West Indies three years earlier. They also had a daughter, Caroline, born a little more than a year after Jonathan Jr. Jonathan Tim Sr.'s death certificate not only confirms his birth in St. Vincent, it indicates that his father – Abdul-Malik's grandfather – James Tim, and his mother, Mary Daniels, were both from the Caribbean." EddieHugh (talk) 12:28, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]