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Air Algerie not bigger than Royal Air Maroc[edit]

RAM carries 3.5 million passengers a year and has got a fleet of 41 plains Air Algerie has less: 3 million passengers ans a fleet of 37 plains. Also the destinations: 78- 71 So RAM is the third biggest in Africa after Egyptair and not fourth!!

Some guy: 190.17.78.105 changed this twice!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.71.93.115 (talk) 17:15, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I want to correct your wrong infortmation, Air algerie does not have a fleet of 37 planes! it has a fleet of 42 planes. so it beats RAM in this. about the number of passengers I am not sure that RAM carries 3.5 million passengers a year. but i am quite sure that Air Algerie carries more than 3 million passengers a year. Air algerie goes to 68 destinations. RAM goes to 67 destinations. Air Algerie has more safisticated and smart fleet, with 30 orders on Boeing 787 dreamliner and boeing 737 MAX. Air Algerie goes to bigger and more important cities. mostly in Europe. while RAM destinations are mostly in Africa. Air Algerie will open its NEW YORK City route at 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.200.68.56 (talk) 12:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaner Page[edit]

I've corrected some of the spelling mistakes, updated the page, updated the logo and created a new page for the destinations. This airline is pretty impressive by African standards! Jaw101ie 23:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hello most information about the fleet are wrong, there is no Boeing 777ER in order and there is no plane odrers at all!!

i've corercted mistakes about the fleet, you can see air algerie web site on www.airalgerie.dz

i think there still may be some significant discrepancies between what the author wishes the airline to be and what is currently is (and will be in the future)

Interiors[edit]

Why are brand new B737-800 going to be refitted with new interiors? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Onapproach (talk • contribs) 18:48, 8 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Royal Air Maroc Larger the Air Algerie & Air Algerie is not part of Skyteam[edit]

I keep having to edit the article due to some one chneging it again. Air Algerie is fourth largest after RAM. The person also edits RAM's article. The person also believes that Air algerie is part of skyteam, when in fact they are not. they have made an application to them, but still have no reply.

He needs to get his facts straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.171.249 (talk) 18:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Conditions of carriage[edit]

The conditions are at http://www.airalgerie.dz/docs/General%20conditions%20of%20carriage.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6BOe2QmdM - They seem to be in English, not Arabic or French WhisperToMe (talk) 01:31, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Non-reliable source used[edit]

If no objections are raised within a week, I'm reverting this edit over concerns on the use of a non-reliable source, such as Planespotters.net is, along with unsourced statements added as well.--Jetstreamer Talk 22:18, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's unsourced? By the way, is the Aero Transport Data Bank a reliable source? --FoxyOrange (talk)
Where's the source supporting this claim: ″To cope with the increased passenger volume during the Hajj pilgrimage, Air Algérie has repeatedly leased Boeing 747 jumbo jets″?--Jetstreamer Talk 22:29, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, many thanks for having pointed this one out. Source added. Please also note that planespotters.net is not the only source I used for the new fleet development section, so I cannot see any reason for having it fully reverted. For a start, you could start with [dubious – discuss] tags if you have any doubts about the factual accuracy. --FoxyOrange (talk) 22:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You're right regarding the point above, but I didn't want to tagbomb the article. In honor of the truth, you catched me by raising the ATBD matter, as it's as (not) reliable as Planespotters is. I think your reasons are enough for the edit to stay. Question: is there a live url for the last source you added?--Jetstreamer Talk 22:45, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Archived references not used in the article[edit]

  • "Nous mènerons l'offensive sur l'Afrique". L'Éco news (in French). 7 June 2014. Archived from the original on 26 June 2014.
  • "Air Algerie Orders Airbus A330s". Aviation Today. 19 November 2013. Archived from the original on 19 November 2013.
  • Duclos, François (24 June 2013). "Air Algérie : hausse du trafic de 13,6% sur quatre mois" (in French). Air Journal. Archived from the original on 24 June 2013. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |trans_title= ignored (|trans-title= suggested) (help)
  • "Air Algerie Eyeing African Tie-Ups - CEO". Airwise News. Reuters. 29 April 2008. Archived from the original on 13 January 2013.
  • "Air Algérie: 600 millions d'euros pour se développer à l'international". Air Journal. 2 July 2012. Archived from the original on 12 January 2013.
  • "Timetable (Effective 31 March 2013 – 26 October 2013)" (in French). Air Algérie. Archived from the original (PDF) on 12 May 2013.
  • "Timetable (Effective 28 October 2012 – 30 March 2013)" (in French). Air Algérie. Archived from the original (PDF) on 16 January 2013.
  • "Timetable (Effective 29 March 2015 (2015-03-29) – 24 October 2015 (2015-10-24))" (PDF) (in French). Air Algérie. Archived from the original (PDF) on 31 May 2015. 
  • "Timetable (Effective 26 October 2014 (2014-10-26) – 28 March 2015 (2015-03-28))" (PDF) (in French). Air Algérie. Archived from the original (PDF) on 4 January 2015. 
  • "Timetable (Effective 22 September 2014 (2014-09-22) – 25 October 2014 (2014-10-25))" (PDF) (in French). Air Algérie. Archived from the original (PDF) on 30 November 2014. 
  • "Timetable" (PDF) (in French). Air Algérie. Archived (PDF) from the original on 4 December 2014.

--Jetstreamer Talk 11:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Recent commitment for new aircraft[edit]

Just for the record, I've reverted the changes made by 181.46.92.33 (talk · contribs) thrice ([1], [2], [3]). Every time I did so I left a message at the IP's talk page with a brief explanation on why a commitment cannot be considered a firm order, receiving no responses at all, whereas the IP keeps modifying the article without even providing an explanation in their edit summaries. Can you, the author of the changes, explain your rationale for your behaviour? Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:28, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

CEO replaced[edit]

"On 19 June 2011, following a strike by staff, the CEO Abdelwahid Bouabdellah, was fired for criticizing the CREDOC and accepted a revaluation of salaries."

Should this read "..and accepting a revaluation.." - or was it the new CEO who implemented changes in salaries? As it stands it isn't clear what happened. Harfarhs (talk) 23:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Given that the sentence is unsourced, it is a candidate for being removed. I'll mark it as having no references. Let's just wait some time for someone to add a reliable citation (I don't think that will ever happen, though).--Jetstreamer Talk 23:52, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Removed [4].--Jetstreamer Talk 22:55, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

I'll be removing this edit in a week or so unless evidence is provided regarding the current logo in the article. Further information can be found here. Comments welcome. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:26, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I commit not to revert the IP. Anyone else can do so after due consideration.--Jetstreamer Talk 15:11, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Following the crash of Flight AH5017, this, this, this, this and this reaffirms my position that the logo in the article should also included Arabic titles. Not to mention the official website. Therefore, I will be reinstating the previous one in a week or so if nobody objects. Thanks.--Jetstreamer Talk 21:04, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I cannot proceed with this. The previous logo has apparently been deleted from where it was hosted.--Jetstreamer Talk 11:18, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Jetstreamer: Did you try the Wayback Machine? WhisperToMe (talk) 12:27, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@WhisperToMe: You mean copying the logo from an archive url and uploading it to Commons? I can do it in a straightforward manner by uploading the current logo in the airline's website. However, I'm aware Nick uses to do this kind of things.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:22, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Anything I can do to help ? Nick (talk) 15:02, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Nick: Yes, actually. I noticed you recently uploaded the latest logo for Ariana Afghan Airlines. Can you do the same for Air Algérie? The current logo does not display the Arabic titles. The initial intention of this discussion was to reinstate it, but the logo that had been previously used in this article appears to have been removed from wherever it had been hosted. Thanks in advance.--Jetstreamer Talk 15:08, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Boeing 737-700C not a cargo aircraft[edit]

The Boeing 737-700C is not a cargo aircraft but a convertible one ([5]). The "C" is for convertible, not for cargo. A dedicated cargo freighter is labelled with an "F", i.e. Boeing 737-300F. I've reverted this edit accordingly. Please do not reinstate it before discussing here first.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:09, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Same editor, different matter. I've reverted ([6]) this other edit. It was unexplained and the entry was properly sourced.--Jetstreamer Talk 23:05, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I've reverted this unexplained edit ([7]), which removed content that is properly sourced. Requesting protection, as there are no responses here.--Jetstreamer Talk 23:08, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've reverted ([8]) the last two edits made by the IP that combined both issues. Still no responses from them. Still waiting for my protection request at WP:RPP and for a reply from the IP.--Jetstreamer Talk 02:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My edits have been reverted one more time without any explanation ([9]). I'm still waiting for the rationale here. The content that has been persistently removed is supported by a source. I won't revert again until this is solved through WP:RPP or WP:ANI [10].--Jetstreamer Talk 03:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yet another unexplained edit ([11]). More of the same.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:13, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like plain old vandalism to me and I have reverted it as such. - Ahunt (talk) 11:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Ahunt: Thanks, MilborneOne is also aware of the situation.--Jetstreamer Talk 11:25, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I am always glad to help out where I can. Looks like MB1 has semi-protected the page. - Ahunt (talk) 13:27, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The convertible versions are used exclusively as a cargo haulers by some airlines. 175.110.222.144 (talk) 15:07, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a source claiming that AH will use these two aircraft in a pure cargo configuration? The source provided in the article (BTW, it was added by me) does not say that.--Jetstreamer Talk 15:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No just pointing out the fact. 175.110.222.144 (talk) 15:16, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Facts require reliable sources. - Ahunt (talk) 12:16, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More unreferenced modifications to the article[edit]

The IP is back again into the article with two unsourced and unexplained changes ([12], [13]). They have been reverted.--Jetstreamer Talk 19:29, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Third ATR[edit]

Their third new ATR has been sighted on Flightradar24 and its delivery flight has also been reported on Skyliner. The information is clearly reliable. Alakzi (talk) 10:50, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Flighradar only shows information for an aircraft, it does not say it is the third one in the fleet. The other source you mention is clearly not reliable. One of the most reliable sources is Flightglobal. The reference supporting the fleet table will soon be updated. Waiting won't hurt anyone (except for the IP that warred over their totally unsourced changes).--Jetstreamer Talk 11:01, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How can it not be reliable? It's reporting the same flight that's shown on Flightradar24. We can put two and two (or one, as it were) together. There's no point in reverting information that's quite obviously factual in anticipation of a "reliable" source. Alakzi (talk) 11:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The source reliability can be raised at WP:RSN.--Jetstreamer Talk 11:15, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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102 billion DA[edit]

this simply can not bet true. Because it would then have half the operational income of air france KLM group with not even 10% of the fleet size. I call BS to almost all the information on this page. 2A02:A44E:6144:1:5C20:A5C7:3699:6FE8 (talk) 23:52, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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