Talk:Alabama State Capitol

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I know that classing this as "start" is probably generous but it seems to be just far enough along not to be a "stub." JodyB 15:00, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

upgrade to Start for WP:NRHP also. doncram (talk) 21:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The capitol???[edit]

Since the Confedaracy was never legitimate and considered treason, should it read with quotations when mentioning the "First and only President of The Confederacy". Redspork02 (talk 21:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First, learn to spell and then read WP:NPOV. Altairisfar (talk) 00:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Newly added "In popular culture" section[edit]

I've removed the newly added "In popular culture" section that mentions the capitol building image on Alabama license plates from 1976 through 1982. It's not particularly relevant and conflicts with the MOS policy of avoiding trivia sections. It also listed no sources, reliable or otherwise. Altairisfar _talk 00:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There was a picture of the very object in question, but I can find a better source if needed. I disagree that this is trivia, because said license plate was produced by the State, in an official capacity, thereby attesting to the State's determination of the significance of the Capitol as a state symbol. It's not some random pop-culture reference. Qqqqqq (talk) 04:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would be better covered in Vehicle registration plates of Alabama. "In popular culture" sections are generally invitations for less experienced users to add crap to an article. However, if you can find some reliable, third-party published sources, I wouldn't object to it being covering here too. Altairisfar _talk 04:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's fair. I'll see if I can find a good source—perhaps one that could provide more historical context— and if so, then better integrate this mention into the article. Qqqqqq (talk) 17:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Architect[edit]

Not sure where "Barachias Holt" came from as the architect. The NRHP nomination says that Stephen Decatur Button designed the first building and George Nichols supervised construction. After the first building burnt down

"Stephen Decatur Button was practicing in Philadelphia, however, for the rebuilding he was named superintendant of construction and he maintained contact by mail with Montgomery until 1856. For the rebuilding, George Nichols was named architect, although the work was based on Button's plans for the first buildings, including the dome and portico, the most distinctive exterior features of the simple but well-proportioned building. "

so I'll include both Nichols and Button as architects.

Smallbones (talk) 03:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how it happened with that nomination form, but it is a big mess. The "George Nichols" that it mentions has to be William Nichols, who designed the first capitol building in Tuscaloosa and the original University of Alabama campus (burned during the Civil War). According to the Alabama Catalog, written by Robert Gamble (chief architectural historian for the Alabama Historical Commission): Stephen Decatur Button did design the first Montgomery capitol from 1846–47. It burned in 1849. A new building that utilized the foundations of Button's structure was built 1850–51 with Barachias Holt as supervising architect. John P. Figh and James D. Randolph were the principal contractors. Nimrod E. Benson and Judson Wyman were the supervisors. I have other published works that back this up also. I have to get out of the house right now, but will return to see if we can't get this thing straightened out. Altairisfar (talk) 12:47, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've hopefully clarified this sufficiently. I still don't know how the nomination form could be so far off the mark, but I do see that the author, Blanche Schroer, used sources dating from 1891, 1904, 1945, and 1950. Little research into Alabama architecture had been done at that point, and what was done from the 1930–50s was more often than not a little "romanticized" or downright fiction. I've added three very reputable sources as inline citations. The two architecture books are both among the most reliable ever done on Alabama architecture. There's one other book that I hope to add later, after I dig it out of my pile of reference books. Altairisfar (talk) 17:43, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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