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I tried to fit the Singapore entry into the table, but that caused some other problems. I believe a skilled wikipedian can make it look good again in a swift. Jannikkappel (talk) 13:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey[edit]

It looks like 1.3 million people mention that they have Albanian descent, and much less actually claim to be "Albanian." If you were to ask people of Irish or German descent in the United States if they considered themselves part of a diaspora community, I imagine the answer would be a resounding no. I think this number needs to reflect the reality the number, there aren't 1.3 million Albanians living in Turkey, there are 1.3 million Turks of Albanian descent living in Turkey. Spyenson (talk) 19:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are some 1.3M Turks of Albanian descent and around 500K of them consider themselves Albanian. Cheers. — Kedaditalk 19:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, would you mind connecting that to reference 20? I'm still learning how to do these things, and the preview of my 1st attempt was a mess, thanks! Spyenson (talk) 21:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A now 6 and 13 are duplicate, that was my problem, how to make them reference the same one.... Spyenson (talk) 07:43, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Albanian diaspora article vandalism[edit]

i simply corrected previously wrong numbers and matched numbers to the numbers given in refrences in the article.I am new around here and i need help in dealing with biased contributors because i can not find any other reason for my edits be called vandalism. TheBigCatcher TheBigCatcher (talk)

Numbers are way off[edit]

There aren't over one million albanians in the United States and over one hundred thousand in Canada. Those numbers are grossly exaggerated. If a cited source claims around 300 thousand in 2001 in the States, it is physically impossible for the number to have grown by 1 million in ten years. Same goes for Canada, the Albanian population there is probably within the 30-50 thousand range. Find some sources before making up numbers like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.119.233.105 (talk) 16:35, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

8 million Turks have Albanian ancestry?[edit]

Stop saying bullshit like this. Albania is a small country with a small population. Yes we were part of the Ottoman Empire for 500 years, but it no way makes it possible for there to be that many of us there. There are in all likeliness more Greeks than Albanians there. And stop making up numbers to support some political agenda. The article overestimates the relationship between Turks and Albanians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.119.233.105 (talk) 16:42, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shaci[edit]

Removed the section Shaci, this is made-up bullshit without sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.174.190.19 (talk) 16:05, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Should this account for illegals?[edit]

In the Netherlands it currently notes between 1000-2000. Legally, there are even only 800. But an investigation showed that there are "at least tens of thousands" (!) Albanians in the Netherlands illegally. A part of this is attributed to the Albanian mob. Should these estimates be used, since they're so significant? Prinsgezinde (talk) 05:43, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Greek discrimination?[edit]

There is no instance of discriminatory politics in post 1974 Greece and that's a fact. You should remove the part that says "due to discriminatory Greek policies". Assimilation to the local culture/religion is commonly found in numerous migrant communities all around the world, not because of discrimination, but because of long contact and intermixing with the local population. LightningLighting (talk) 21:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Someone said it at last. To be fair I wouldn't disregard that there might have been assimilation tactics in 1974 but, at the same time, if I'm being honest, most of the Greek paragraph seems kinda stretched in more places than one (e.g. the identity of the Arvanites, treatment of Albanian immigrants etc). There are not many real sources either. What can I say, this whole article smells like Albanian neo-nationalistic victimization. Lmagoutas (talk) 09:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The first paragraph of the Impact section is a word salad[edit]

While ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Greece, Albanian and old Turkish names still are quite common, in Albania proper, religious names were not allowed during communism, and were barely given since the fall of the Communist dictatorship and the opening of the borders.

I've bolded the part of that sentence with poor grammar. There's an unnecessary parenthesis after the word English in "Italian and English)...". It also contradicts itself by saying religious names were barely given after the fall of communism, and then saying Christian names became common.

Headows of Meaven (talk) 19:16, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Australia and New Zealand[edit]

Article is too narrow in focus re: Australia and in particular New Zealand (sources used merely focus on Kosovo Albanians). Both lack updated details on new Albanian immigration as well as those of partial Albanian ancestry. Would recommend further research, although sources seem to be scarce online. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varvanitis (talk • contribs) 09:56, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Varvanitis:. A few words. I have a Australian tertiary humanities background. I have done my research, more than anyone ever has on these topics in Wikipedia. Sources on Albanian communities have only become available in recent years. Most focus is on Muslims because their the communities that were studied. Christians have not been the focus and i tried finding studies on them, or even mentions and added where possible (in relation to Australia, zero on New Zealand). As an editor, if you have come across sources on anything i have missed, you place them, but your edits must address the source. I tried very hard and it took a lot of time to even be able to come up with this. I have personal experiences of the communities, but that in no way allows me to place whatever i want on Wikipedia based on that. And frankly that's whats your doing and it constitutes WP:OR (original research). I will be reverting your edits. If you want to discuss this in good faith, you can do so here or on my talkpage.Resnjari (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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