Talk:Albert Wesker/GA3

GA Review[edit]

Passed. Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 01:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Greenish Pickle! (talk · contribs) and StarScream1007 (talk · contribs) 03:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 01:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will take this on hopefully sometime tomorrow or within the coming days. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Six GA Criteria[edit]

1. Article is well-written. A few typos and iffy wordings here and there but nothing too overly detrimental.

2. No OR, all info is cited in the article.

3. Coverage is broad, but rather weak in places. It feels like a weird limbo between there and not that I can't really describe.

4. Article appears neutral, and does not appear to hold a significantly negative nor positive stance on the subject.

5. Article appears stable. Any vandalism was minor and dealt with days before the GAR.

6. Article uses one fair use image with proper rationale.

Lead[edit]

-What is the Racoon Police Department? Specify a bit. Done

-Same for the Umbrella Corporation. Specify that they're a villainous organization. Done

-"Several actors have portrayed Wesker, including Jason O'Mara, Shawn Roberts, Tom Hopper, and Lance Reddick in the live-action Resident Evil series." Did all of them portray him in live action, or just Reddick? They indeed are. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Concept and design[edit]

-Minor nitpick, but perhaps you could include a multi-image infobox with all of his live action actors? It feels a bit odd having only O'Mara there. Done

Appearances[edit]

-Do we need to know the locations of every Resident Evil game featuring Wesker?

Done removing it.

Critical Reception[edit]

-"She also said that since Nietzche passed away a few years before the Nazi Party was founded, he was unable to personally propose his theory to them, but his sister did. Subsequently, the Nazi Party used the concept of the Übermensch to uphold white supremacy." This is just a history recap that isn't too relevant to Wesker. Done removing it.

-Source 66 feels more like a source discussing the Umbrella Chronicles more than anything related to Wesker's character. Done removing it.

-"Jesse Schedeen of IGN discussed his appearances across the franchise, in which she said that Wesker is "the best bad guys are the ones that wear shades."" Quote doesn't work due to lack of grammar. Done fixing it.

-I worry the Forbes source is more about Reddick as an actor than Wesker, given Wesker is mentioned for all of two lines. I feel the Afterlife source is also a bit trivial, but given it's supporting wider points, I'm not entirely against it. Not done, maybe it should be fine.

Overall[edit]

I feel iffy on this article. On the one hand, it's not terrible, and mostly meets criteria, but it feels a step removed from a true Good Article. I'm not going to fail this yet, but I feel a second opinion would be greatly valued here, so I've requested for one to be given. To whoever answers this, I'd like just a general judge of the article, as I'm just not quite certain if this article meets the criteria or not. The sourcing feels weak in spots, and yet doesn't feel outright terrible, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I am aware that the sourcing at the reception looks a bit flimsy. The same thing as other iconic characters like Bulbasaur. We tried to find more, but we just couldn't unlike other RE characters sadly. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:38, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm not faulting it in any way, but I'm having trouble deciding myself here. Sourcing's at a point where I'm torn between "This is solid, but..." Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:50, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Several additions have already been implemented at reception [1] [2]. If you're still a bit iffy, I understand =) 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly these sources are both very good, and I honestly feel you could probably expand on the Reception from both. I'm honestly a bit more confident in this article now, especially via the Escapist source, which gives a lot of commentary beyond the Smith comparison. For the Destructoid source, I'd expand on the writer's thoughts on Wesker's battle, and with the Escapist source, I would include a direct quote, for instance "Wesker is basically Agent Smith in The Matrix – a perfect villain for the first story, but so effective that directors kept making him more powerful in sequels, even when doing so made no sense...Wesker wears so many hats across the series that his presence has been stripped of power – he’s just a generic antagonist to introduce when the stakes must be artificially raised." And I'm sure you could include a lot more from it. I'm willing to remove the request for additional opinions, since I'm feeling a bit more solid on Wesker now, but I do hope you take my advice on those two sources, given I feel they have untapped potential. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correction, it is a Den of Geek source not Destructoid. Pinging @StarScream1007 so he is aware. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, my apologies. But yeah, I did mean the Den of Geek source when I referenced Destructoid. Sorry for the confusion. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Expanded both. The escapist one is rephrased it in order to avoid copyvio violation. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:04, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I rephrased your Escapist quote since you accidentally left in some direct quotation from the source. In any case, the expansion looks good overall. I'd remove the last sentence from the direct quote in the Den of Geek source due to it not really contributing much to the overall commentary, but after that, I think I'd be happy to pass the article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help. Done removing it. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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