Talk:Alice Lee (civic leader)

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Assessment[edit]

This is one of the articles at the borderline between Start- and C-Class. While I would see the Personal life section deserving the C Status the other two sections still need some more work and substance. Gehenna1510 (talk) 01:06, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiki Education assignment: Civic Technology[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 24 August 2022 and 30 November 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Lolbabycowboy (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Thomasquinnild, Farouk Najjar, Adinjoshi1.

— Assignment last updated by Adinjoshi1 (talk) 17:31, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think that this article is off to a great start! However, I noticed that this article was flagged for the 'Wiki Loves Pride' event, yet the article only vaguely describes Alice Lee's contributions to the LGBTQ+ community and her personal experience with her partner. The inclusion of more specific information regarding Lee's sexuality could both improve Wikipedia's coverage of LGBTQ+ women in history and further contextualize her work as a civic leader. Additionally, there were numerous spelling and grammatical errors that I fixed to improve the credibility of the article. The aforementioned edits are included below.

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Alice Lee (May 27, 1853 - February 18, 1943) and her long-time partner Katherine Teats (who died in 1952) were important in the early 20th-century San Diego social scene, entertaining two U.S. presidents at their home.

Alice Lee was born on May 27, 1853, in Westport, New York, the daughter of Colonel Francis L. Lee (1823-1886) and Sarah Mary Anne Wilson.[1] She was the second cousin of Theodore Roosevelt's wife, Alice Hathaway Lee.[2] Lee was educated in Boston, where the family spent the winters.[1] Lee was a supporter of the Progressive movement, and other than Theodore Roosevelt, she was friends with Florence Nightingale, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and the family of Amos Bronson Alcott.[3]

In 1887 Alice Lee purchased Marvin House in Westport and transformed it into a posh hotel. Additional "cottages" were built and also a boathouse, gardens, tennis and croquet courts, a 6-hole Golf course, and the annex on the other side of Main Street. The Westport Inn was demolished in 1966.[1] Alice Lee's brother, Thomas Lee, built the pipes to bring water from Mountain Spring down to the hotel. He also bottled the water to sell it and later the pipes became the town water supply.[4] Lee sold the property to Harry P. Smith in the early 1900s.[1] Lee assisted in the fund-raising efforts for both the Westport Library (1888) and the Cutting Memorial Hall addition (1907).[4] In 1902 Lee moved to San Diego to find a better climate and met the Marston family, already involved in the Progressive movement and through them also Lee joined the movement.[2][1] In San Diego Lee was a member of the First Unitarian Church, Wednesday Club, Civic Committee of the Chamber of Commerce, and other groups for cultural and civic development.[2] She was also President of the San Diego Museum, the Balboa Park Auditorium Association, and the Balboa Park Commission. She was the Honorary Director of the Women's Civic Center and Director of the Natural History Museum.[2] She founded the Open Forum, a group that was devoted to discussing social, political, and international issues. In 1935 the Open Forum was the "oldest continuous non-legislative forum of free public discussion in the United States" and it closed in the 1970s.[2] She campaigned for Franklin Roosevelt in 1932. She represented the California Progressive Party at the National Convention held in Chicago.[3] She led the "Save the Beaches" campaign whose purpose was to open public beaches in San Diego and which was instrumental to develop the public playground system.[3]

Alice Lee was close friends with both the wife of Grover Cleveland, Frances Folsom Cleveland Preston, and of Theodore Roosevelt, Alice Hathaway Lee Roosevelt, and was often a guest at the White House. Theodore Roosevelt and his wife Alice Hathaway Lee Roosevelt, and Frances Folsom Cleveland Preston were often guests at Lee's San Diego home at 7th Ave.[3] Lee lived together with Katherine Teats from 1902 to 1943, when Lee died. In 1905 they commissioned Hazel Wood Waterman, with the supervision of Irving Gill, to build three residences in San Diego, Alice Lee Residence at 3574 7th Ave, Katherine Teats Cottage at 3560 7th Ave, and Alice Lee Cottage at 3578 7th Ave. The compound shared a garden designed by botanist and landscape architect Kate Sessions. Lee and Teats lived in the main house and used the other two for rentals. Teats continued to live at Teats Cottage, a Prairie-style house that Lee granted to her in 1906 until she died in 1952.[3] Lee and Teats are, according to the San Diego Historical Resource Board, "one of the first documented domestic partnerships in San Diego", being indeed documented living together in various Census records; in the 1930 Census, Lee was Head of Household and Teats was Partner (and not Lodger while often used in such cases). Together they owned various real estate properties in San Diego, and both had an active civic and social life, and they were accepted as a couple.[3] Lee died on February 18, 1943, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she was spending the winter and is buried at Hillside Cemetery, Westport

Thomasquinnild (talk) 05:45, 11 October 2022 (UTC) — Assignment last updated by Civictech (talk) 05:12, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review[edit]

The article has only four sources cited for its entire length, and two of them are non-copyrighted pdfs. This seems insufficient evidence for this page. A lot of sentences in this page start with "She" and are structured in a very similar way, this makes the reader not be engaged with the content and facilitates repetition.

Overall, the article is very well-structured in terms of chronology. It is coherent and cohesive with minor grammatical mistakes.

The tone did not feel biased but the lack of citations did hurt it's credibility. Civictech (talk) 05:44, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review: Farouk Najjar[edit]

After reading the article, I loved to learn more about Alice Lee, and I am excited to see what else is going to be added in the future!


Although I know the article is in its earlier stages, here are some recommendations I had to improving it.


Firstly, I feel like the lead section is rather short, and could benefit from length as it can better have the potential to describe the contents of the article better. So far it only references who she is, and that she is important. Additionally, I wanted to add how there seems to be a low amount of sources at the moment. The article can greatly benefit from having more reliable sources as it would make the information being read by other Wikipedia users seem more reliable and truthful. I loved the inclusion of an image, the visual appeal is very nice to see. If this article were to be expanded, sections could definitely be added regarding some of the civic achievements Alice Lee was able to achieve in her lifetime, with a section dedicated to each of the most notable ones.


Thank you for taking my review into consideration! Best of luck working on the article. Farouk Najjar (talk) 06:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review: Adinjoshi1[edit]

This article has piqued my interests about Alice Lee. Your contributions have helped me greatly understand the extent of their impact on LGBTQ+ rights and civic technology.


I would suggest adding more sources to the entire article. Although your contributions have made the article seem much more factual and encyclopedic, I would suggest backing those facts up with more sources. I also love the fact that you have taken a chronological approach to editing the content of this section. I think that has improved its readability by a lot.


I think the article is at a great place right now. More images, sources, and facts about Alice Lee would not hurt in telling their story to the masses! Adinjoshi1 (talk) 22:05, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]