Talk:Alice Miller (psychologist)

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More complete than the German counterpart[edit]

I don't have the time to go through the rating page. However, I can state that this article deals more with Miller's ideas than with her life.

Anyway, it's difficult to rate an article that I contributed to edit. I can only say that the editors are knowledgeable of Miller’s texts. In my opinion, in spite of the fact that Miller writes in German language, this English article is more complete than its German wikipedia counterpart.

—Cesar Tort 23:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rating: Start-class[edit]

I agree that the page seems to focus more on her work than on Miller herself. Also, it needs an infobox and picture(s), and a bit of tidying up, before it can be B-class. Tim (Xevious) 16:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alice Miller is no longer with us[edit]

What a shock. Miller was the most important person in my adult life. By far.

Good bye my dear Alice...

(I am changing the date. According to her web site she died on the 14th.)

Cesar Tort 18:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. A profoundly important woman. Thanks for the update from her website. MarmadukePercy (talk) 18:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wish we could get a pic of Miller that we could legally upload in the article. Do you know a legit one? (Anyway, this is my blog on Miller studies. Everyone is welcomed to comment there.) Cesar Tort 00:32, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Miller's new Biography about his Mother[edit]

After studying Miller, Martin (2013). Das wahre „Drama des begabten Kindes“. Die Tragödie Alice Millers. Freiburg im Breisgau: Kreuz Verlag., I have worked on the biographical part of the article. There were some fundamental errors to correct. Also by now unknown information could be added. You can find online sources about the book by Martin Miller here:

Es war nicht schön, Alice Millers Sohn zu sein (Die Welt)
Die Maske der Kinderrechtlerin (Der Tagesspiegel)
Therapeut Martin Miller über seine Mutter Alice (taz.de)
Es war nicht schön, der Sohn von Alice Miller zu sein (Deutschlandradio Kultur)

Sorry, everything is in German. See also the discussion page of the German Wikipedia article. --Ixkeys (talk) 19:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this info.

The trouble I see in some blogs & forums commenting about Martin’s book is that some idiots are trying to assassinate the character of Alice Miller by means of recounting her childrearing methods way before her psychological discoveries. Fortunately you have not used Martin’s book is such way.

Cesar Tort 23:41, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This would be a misuse of Martin Miller's book. He writes (page 101), that in spite of his own disastrous experiences with his mother, it is a matter of great importance to him, that the relevance of her work is untouched. Especially her first three books he considers being groundbreaking. I personally think that without Alice Miller's theories his own analysis of his mother's biography and her relationship to him wouldn't be the same as it is. I also think that an appropriate discussion of Martin Miller's book in English-speaking areas is possible only after an English translation, because its content is too complex to be fully understood from short publications reporting about the book. --Ixkeys (talk) 17:40, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Finally, Martin's book is now available in English. But it adds little, if anything, to the article as it stands today (see e.g., here). --Cesar Tort 00:36, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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