Talk:All Quiet on the Western Front (1930 film)

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The 1930 version of this film is very good, and is on the AFI's top 100 years 100 movies list so im giving it its own article. There is no consensus so if your gonna move it back please dont move it until im done completley por favor. WalterWalrus3 21:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC) and they lived hppily ever after —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.6.43.1 (talk) 19:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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"The enemy overruns the trenches and the Germans fall back, occupying bomb craters. The enemy is overwhelming now and the Germans fall back to a second row of trenches. German shells rain heavily on the enemy after which the Germans attack in hand-to-hand combat. The enemy has occupied the first row of trenches with machine gun positions and inflict heavy casualties on the Germans. The battle winds down. 70 of the 150 men in the unit have been killed." ehrm, sry but thats just so cheap. 4th grade... pleace delete it or write it new. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.60.59.188 (talk) 13:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great minds think alike; by coincidence I have rewritten this section. I'm slightly confused though. It looks as if the French reach the German front lines, the Germans retreat to a second line, and then they counter-attack and capture their own front line again, which is being held by the French. However the dialogue ("We can't hold this position, men - back to your own lines!") implies that the German counter-attack swept on, into the French trenches. The end result is the same though. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 22:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Available[edit]

I remember this film being almost impossible to get hold of for several years; at least in the UK the only "All Quiet on the Western Front" that you could buy in the 1980s and 1990s was the 1979 television film. Was there a legal reason for this, or was the film simply too old and worn to sell? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 22:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed dubious fact[edit]

I removed this from the "releases" section:

*During the Korean War, the film was reedited to stir pro-war sentiments, rather than being a largely anti-war film.

as it was unsourced and seemed dubious to me. If I'm incorrect, please don't hesitate to restore it to the article with a citation for verification. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 06:45, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plot Summary and "Criticism"[edit]

I've seen plots summaries of movies shorter than this that have been tagged for shortening - is someone going to distill the summary?

Additionally, the article describes the acclaim this movie received. However, I read Remarque's book before I saw this. The movie massacres the book. It's an insult to tack on Remarque's name and the title of his book; they might have done so only to ride the book's acclaim. The position of the movie juxtaposes that of the book, and the movie really wasn't anti-war. Someone should include a section on criticism of the movie.

75.209.196.75 (talk) 01:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not uncommon for movies to take 'artistic license' with the books they portray, for brevity sake or whatever. What may be needed is a section for Differences Between the Novel and the Film. Seems I've seen that done on several Wiki movie entries. Either way, it needs to be sourced... Engr105th (talk) 05:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of things have always puzzled me a bit. Paul Baumer's name is pronounced as "Bowmer" in the film, although with an umlaut over the 'a' it should be "Boymer", and the character Josef Behm in the book is "Behn" in the film. Curiously, the film poster shows Behn wearing a smooth 1916 helmet, while in the film he's killed in the earlier period of spiked helmets.Hyjack7 (talk) 13:33, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Production section: the butterfly scene & Baumer's death[edit]

The first line of the Production paragraph says "In the film, Paul is shot while trying to draw a butterfly just outside his trench." When I saw this movie years ago, I seem to recall he was reaching for the butterfly - no sketching was involved. Is this a conflation with the 1970s movie, starring Richard Thomas (where he indeed gets distracted and expose himself while sketching a bird?)...I no longer have my copy of the 1930s original film...Engr105th (talk) 05:38, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I recall him reaching for it as well.96.250.206.188 (talk) 13:29, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Draw" means "reach for, try to attract".47.20.160.104 (talk) 17:50, 8 February 2017 (UTC)captcrisis[reply]

Restored versions[edit]

The "International Sound Version" version ("silent" version with titles), restored by the Library of Congress, premiered on Turner Classic Movies on Sept. 28, 2011

But i seem to have a Library of Congress restored version on DVD 2005 ?


TCM.com

""When All Quiet on the Western Front was sold to television in the '50s, it was cut by about 35 minutes and background music was added to the final scenes. Before his death, director Lewis Milestone begged Universal to restore the film to its original form. They finally did in 1998, with the help of the Library of Congress, though by then some of the cut footage was lost. The current running time is 133 minutes, seven minutes shorter than the version that first premiered in 1930."


Alternate Versions TCM website www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/67079/All-Quiet-on-the-Western-Front/alternate-versions.html


"In 1939, the film was re-released with two major changes: the first was the addition of a voice-over narration comparing the WWI German soldiers depicted quite favorably to the Nazi army that had just begun to sweep across Europe. The second change was the addition of a new scene at the end, showing Nazis burning books -- including the one on which the film is based.

Re-issue prints (particularly for 1940's and later TV releases) were cut by some 35 minutes and the soundtrack altered by the distributor, especially during the final sequence where music was added contrary to director Lewis Milestone's wishes. In 1980, before his death, Milestone asked Universal to restore the film and remove the music to the final scene. In 1998, about 30 minutes were reinstated to resemble the original 1930 cut, and Milestone's wishes were finally honored.

The silent (synchronized sound, non-dialogue) version is 133 minutes long and was restored by the Library of Congress. It was prepared for Universal's own cinemas (they were one of the last exhibitors to convert to sound) and shown in France and Australia and possibly elsewhere, but never in Britain until Sunday 23 November 2003."

www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/67079/All-Quiet-on-the-Western-Front/articles.html


Library of Congress restoration mentioned or finished in 1996 already! http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1996-09-01/news/1996245099_1_film-library-of-congress-quiet


And how about (extra) restoration for the Universal 100th Blu-Ray versions? www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VUFefkVVuA

77.172.196.228 (talk) 13:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)Rd[reply]

What scene(s) did U.K. censors cut?[edit]

The article says that two minutes were cut from the British version, does anyone know what scene this was? Historian932 (talk) 18:18, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

According to the book by Andrew Kelly ("All Quiet on the Western Front - the Story of a Film", I.B.Tauris & Co Ltd, 1998) "There was only one small cut - 201 feet deleted from the bedroom scene."

I saw it in London in 1950; music had been added to the final scene and sequences deleted were Paul's visit to the pub back home, and the reappearance of Corporal Himmelstoss when he arrived at the front.

I'm puzzled by the cast list given in the article. The actor playing Behn (Walter Browne Rogers) has been excised, although his part though smallish is quite important and his face is on the poster. The French girl Suzanne, played by Yola d'Avril, and Paul's sister, played by Marion Clayton Anderson, are also (now) missing. Pourquoi? Warum?Hyjack7 (talk) 21:02, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

derided as quasi-Communist and a bad influence on youth[edit]

That was true during the Vietnam War era anyway. I remember this personally. Can anyone dig up support for this?47.20.160.104 (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)captcrisis[reply]

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