Talk:Allan V. Cox

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Doesn't really belong in Transport[edit]

The inclusion of Allan Cox in several Transport categories, as well as Wikiproject Transport, seems unjustified because he did nothing of any significance during his three years in the Merchant Marine. RockMagnetist (talk) 05:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why the indirection about the suicide?[edit]

"On March 13, 1987, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that the San Mateo County coroner had concluded
that Cox's death was a suicide."

Shouldn't that simply be: "Cox killed himself on January 27, 1987. At the time he was facing charges of child molestation"? If the coroner concluded it was suicide, as far as an encyclopedia is concerned it is suicide. There isn't any reason to quote the exact newspaper which reported it, the date of the report, the county of the coroner and so on. And, yes, this should go in the lead para as well, being a crucial part of the article. We report facts neutrally, and at times that implies unsparingly. Churn and change (talk) 05:09, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All of that is in the paragraph, so there isn't really any indirection. However, a lot of the facts are repeated. The paragraph could be condensed by citing the newspaper articles instead of discussing them. I'll do that. However, I can't verify the citations, so I'll tag them. RockMagnetist (talk) 22:14, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. Added the citations from archives. Also mentioned the suicide (an established fact since the coroner gets to decide whether a death is a suicide) in the opening para. This fact is a significant part of the article and needs to be there in its summary. Churn and change (talk) 15:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added a reference to an additional perspective on Cox's death, that of his partner, the geologist Clyde Wahrhaftig. I think this is important to include, to give a full picture of the possible motivations for his suicide, ranging from "maybe the allegations were true, and he'd been found out" to "maybe the allegations were false but would nevertheless have resulted in him being outed as a gay man and potentially destroyed his career." Tim314 (talk) 09:08, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]