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Shouldn't this article include the promotion's time in the NWA? For the fact that it was an NWA member promotion until Verne Gagne withdrew from the alliance.

Concerning American Wrestling Assoication & AWA Superstars of Wrestling...[edit]

Shouldn't AWA Superstars of Wrestling have it's own page, since it techinically isn't the AWA? 24.7.217.221 19:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with that Gamehead 03:57, 9 December 2006 (UTC)gamehead[reply]

I've split the pages despite the "Merge" vote in 2005 - they're two seperate promotions who only share a name. if the other AWA is not notable it should be deleted not piggy backed onto a notable article. MPJ-DK 10:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WWE and AWA[edit]

The Wikipedia article says that WWE only owns the tape library, and none of the original copyrights. A quick search of the United States Patent and Trademark Office website reveals that the term "American Wrestling Association" is owned by WWE Libraries, Inc. In other words, WWE owns the trademarks on the American Wrestling Association name. Furthermore, there is no trademark for AWA Superstars of Wrestling, and no trademarks owned by Dale Gagner (or Dale Gange). So, legally, WWE owns the AWA name, logo, initials, etc. And Dale has no legal claim to any of it. --Brandon Myers 22:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As someone requested in my Talk page, here are links to two of the trademark listings. [1] [2] Note the second one says the "last listed owner" is WWE, which means they are the current owners. The USPTO website is here if you wish to search for yourself. --Brandon Myers 16:59, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its never stated how this happened. I assumed that WWE bought the AWA licensing. but this is not implicit in the article. Sephiroth storm (talk) 02:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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However, doing some research online comes up with the information that the WWE attempted to acquire the AWA's assets only within the past few years, some time after it's revival by Gagner.^[1] If the information proves to be true, then that means WWE has NO case whatsoever against AWA Superstars of Wrestling & Gagner.

This is all POV. I'm happy someone out there likes to play Columbo, but if this were as simple as the paragraph the WWE would not logically go forward with litigation. I'm sure there are more variable then what we are being presented with. --Endlessdan 16:29, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, here's the article that the refernce was linked to: LATEST ON THE WWE VS. AWA SUPERSTARS TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT LAWSUIT. So, if Gagner/Gagne is telling the truth in that article, that would mean that he recieved the assets of the AWA 7 years before WWE claims to have bought those same assets. If his claims are true, then that would mean WWE has no case whatsoever and their just wasting their time. So, maybe people like Endlessdan would be wise to RESEARCH these things first next time BEFORE he starts assuming whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.77.218 (talk) 01:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aww.....what's the matter, Endlessdan? Cat got your tongue? Did you finally figure out what I said was right? Just goes to show the amount of idiots on Wikipedia. 98.193.77.218 19:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, here's an article from Gerweck about AWA footage being shown on ESPN Classic: Question: How is ESPN able to air AWA Tapes if WWE owns the video library? And, I do believe him. It might just be that Gagne & whomever changed it from AWA (American Wrestling Association) Superstars of Wrestling to AWA (American Wrestling Alliance) Superstars of Wrestling so that he wouldn't have to deal with WWE anymore. But, I'd be willing to bet you that if Gagne took McMahon & WWE to court, based on the evidence I've seen, Gagne would end up winning. 24.15.113.162 (talk) 23:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unless ESPN licensed the content from WWE. Then Gagne's screwed. Orethrius (talk) 15:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The only issue is when did WWE buy the AWA assets...and did the party that sold them have rights to sell them at that time, etc. If VG owned his own promotion and sold it to WWE, that's the end of the story. If VG made prior sales of parts of the promtion to others, then WWE may not own everything they think they own. However, the courts seem to have decided in WWE's favor. As for how ESPN could air AWA programming if WWE owns it -- when were the shows aired? AWA still existed for some of these shows -- e.g. the clip of the Zbyzsko v. Race title match. ESPN certainly would have retained copies of their own broadcasts. Their arrangement with AWA might allow for permanent rebroadcast rights...so it wouldn't matter who subsequently owns the clips after AWA closes. If the NFL licenses the Super Bowl to me for permanent rebroadcast, it doesn't matter if the NFL then folds and is sold to another league. Just my two cents 66.19.84.3 (talk) 08:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Google Groups/alt.pro.wrestling.wwf. "Vince McMahon & WWE vs Dale Gagner & AWA SoW". Google Groups. Retrieved 2007-08-20. Google Groups
Gagner claims he incorporated the AWA name in 1996, three years after Verne abandoned it during his personal and corporate bankruptcies. WWE's side is that they acquired the AWA library, copyright, and trademarks in January 2003 when they purchased them from Verne Gagne, who was later inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help); line feed character in |quote= at position 94 (help)

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[Gagner_AWA-1] Google Groups/alt.pro.wrestling.wwf. "Vince McMahon & WWE vs Dale Gagner & AWA SoW". Google Groups. Retrieved 2007-08-20. Google Groups
Gagner claims he incorporated the AWA name in 1996, three years after Verne abandoned it during his personal and corporate bankruptcies. WWE's side is that they acquired the AWA library, copyright, and trademarks in January 2003 when they purchased them from Verne Gagne, who was later inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. {{cite web}}: |author= has generic name (help); line feed character in |quote= at position 94 (help)

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