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Guys, I've added the 'screw-up' comment from David Pleasance. I put the reference in the text, and I have the magazine right here if anyone wants to doubt it. But how do I put a link down to the reference? I forgot how to do it. - Richardcavell 08:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This link may be helpful: WP:CITE#Citation_styles --Ds13 07:42, 13 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may be wrong but I could swear that my A600 had a verson 3.something of workbench. Unfortunately at the moment said system is 300 miles away at my parents house. The system was purchased in July/August 1992 in the UK. I'll try and track down sources verifying this and clarify details.--80.41.246.105 20:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, a quick glance reveals that I am clearly mis-remembering things. Sorry. --80.41.246.105 20:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The tech specs list a keyboard port. I'm fairly sure that's wrong.

Is 8MB correct for the maximum RAM? I thought the maximum was 2MB, or 6MB if you include PCMCIA cards. It could apparently also be 32MB if you allow for 3rd party accelerators.

A stock A600 is limited by the 24-bit address bus of the 68000. The memory map for that allocates 8MB of FastRAM space which the A600 could address. The Apollo 68030 accelerators (and the new ACA630s) take advantage of the '030 32-bit address bus and can theoretically address up to 4GB RAM. In practice, these cards only support up to 32/64MB. In all cases, Chip RAM is still limited to 2MB. AndyLandy (talk) 11:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
But, er... if it had 1MB of Chip onboard, the ability to add an extra meg of chip via the trapdoor, and the maximum SRAM card size was 4MB... whence cometh that final 2MB? Just because the system has the overall address space available doesn't mean it's necessarily got the connectors for it. Third party add-ons that directly connect to the CPU or other chips on the motherboard shouldn't be considered as part of the machine's standard design capabilities, any more than the 030 CPU upgrades, graphics cards, etc should be. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 09:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maximum Chip RAM for the A500, A600 and A1200 is now a grey area. If you want to stick to strict Commodore limitations, it is indeed 2Mb. However, the Apollo Firebird (A500), Manticore (A600) and Icedrake (A1200) accelerators have a total of 512Mb DDR3 RAM on board and 12Mb of this is used to increase the Chip RAM. I've only seen screenshots of AmigaOS 3.1 running on one of these with roughly 6Mb Chip RAM available.
So, the question remains -- do we want to limit this article to portray a machine from 1992 which can hardly be expanded at all, and is therefore a "bad" Amiga, or do we want to describe it as what it is capable of in 2024? BrettEden (talk) 08:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A600 Kickstart 37.300 limited to 40 MB[edit]

A600 article says: "Due to bugs in Kickstart 37.300, the maximum supported size of a hard drive was limited to 40 MB"

I have an A600 with Kickstart 37.300 with a harddisk of 512 Mb running perfectly.

The article describes it as a 'game of chance', but I know a few people (myself included) who have ran >40MB disks under 37.300 but never any reports to the contrary. I've put a Citation Needed tag next to the claim. If it is true (and we've all got lucky) it'd be nice to have a reference to refer to. AndyLandy (talk) 11:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So, would it be worth me getting a 2.5" cable off eBay and seeing if I can hook up the old 810MB laptop hard disk I have lying around? It's not like the disk is worth anything to anyone, but I couldn't be bothered with the hassle of getting the cable if it wasn't going to work... 193.63.174.211 (talk) 12:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have early A600 model (description on mainboard says A300), it's equipped with 37.300 Kickstart and I used it with 200 and 4000MB hard drives without any problems. I never met anyone (in person or on Internet forums) who had problems with hard drives over 40MB on 37.300 so I think it's just a myth.46.171.235.221 (talk) 16:29, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction[edit]

The lead says it was unexpandable, but there's a section on expansion. AlexJ 22:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was considered relatively unexpandable when compared to the A500. It's not that it couldn't be expanded at all. The text seemed reasonably clear on that point to me? 193.63.174.211 (talk) 09:52, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

product design author[edit]

It's missing information of who did the product design of A600 and A1200 - it's much more in the product design level of Ettore Sottsass (Olivetti), Hartmut Esslinger (Apple at 80's) and Rick Dickinson (his late work at Sinclair, with the models 128 and QL) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nitrofurano (talk • contribs) 15:36, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Compatible with A500 hard discs/etc or not?[edit]

OK, now the article as it stands makes some play of how the 600 retains compatibility with previous peripherals because it happens to retain the serial, parallel and floppy ports (big whoop, it'd be shocking if it hadn't ;) ... but, does that also include bus-attached devices like the external A590 hard drive and similar? Or was that removed? I can't find any information either way online thus far.

(Personally, I'm seeing some of these going for sale on eBay quite cheaply and am wondering if it might be a viable upgrade option vs replacing the kickstart ROMs and finding an adaptor cable for an internal IDE drive - especially as they also tend to include ready-installed RAM upgrades in the same box... but if it can't actually connect to the machine, then it's a bit pointless! And if anywhere is going to mention this retained or lost capability, it might as well be WP...) 193.63.174.211 (talk) 09:59, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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