Talk:Ana Pauker

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"Opposed collectivization"[edit]

I for one don't dispute the claim. It is just that the sources I know of do not make it as such. They do mention that, contrary to popular misconception, she was the one to oppose several of Gheorghiu-Dej's measures (while Dej remained a Stalinist for the rest of his life). This was acquiesced even by an anti-communist such as Corneliu Coposu, who argued that she had opposed his arrest. A mention about opposition to collectivization, however, would deserve a clear and neat citation, especially since she is likely to have opposed it from a point on (her associate Vasile Luca played a major part in enforcing collectivization); as long as she sided with official party lines at the time, and we know she did, she is likely to have done the same. I'm sure there are detailed sources that would prove she became opposed to collectivization from x moment, but let's not venture into providing that information until we can provide them as well.

That said, this entire article deserves much, much work in sourcing and detailing. I had revamped it at some point, but that is just the beginning. The sheer scale of what ought to be done is intimidating - I for one am willing to give it my best sometime in the future. Dahn 18:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You write that "the sources I know of do not make" the claim that Pauker opposed forced collectivization. I've added to the text precisely those sources that demonstrate her opposition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zalmanrab (talk • contribs) 06:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Service[edit]

In "Stalin A Biography" (The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts 2005) Robert Service writes at page 519 that Ana Pauker was shot. Marktunstill (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Service is definitely wrong. Pauker was released from prison after having served only a month (thanks to Molotov's repeated intervention with Gheorghiu-Dej), and was eventually allowed to reside with her family in Bucharest.

Positive bias[edit]

As it is, the article systematically downplays the criminal role of Pauker in installing communist terror and destruction of the pre-war elites, making her much more moderate than she actually was. 77.162.130.139 (talk) 01:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Religion: Orthodox Judaism"?[edit]

Can we get a source on that? Because according to this source, her brother clearly remembers her telling him that 'you can't be both a communist and religious'. http://books.google.com/books?id=TDqemCGtAuYC&pg=PA185&lpg#v=onepage&q&f=false So I'm going to be bold here and change 'religion' to none. 67.87.217.163 (talk) 03:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Demise?[edit]

This biographical sketch ends in 1956. Why is there nothing about her death four years later? Sca (talk) 15:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comments[edit]

There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:12, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comments[edit]

There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Discrepancy in birthdate[edit]

I have raised citation need against the birthdates which are given as 13 December 1893 in the infobox and 13 February 1893 in the intro line. Although Romania was a primarily Orthodox Christian country, the dates are too far apart to be accountable for by the difference between the Old Style (Julian) calendar and the New Style (Gregorian) calendar, which is only 11 days.Cloptonson (talk) 20:08, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Pauker[edit]

Why is she described so positively? She was one of the "internationalist" communists who were send by Stalin to impose bolshevism with brutality in Romania, one of the many who eradicated the romanian elites, the woman behind the extermination camps where romanians were tortured to death. Her downfall has nothing to do with her being used as a scapegoat, it has to do with the removal of the muscovite criminal gang, who had members like the father of Tismaneanu, Patapievici, Brucan, and others. When you invoke the Tismaneanu report in this article, you literaly listen Ana PAuker speaking about herself, and it's natural that she is presented in a positive light. 46.97.168.69 (talk) 15:35, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]