Talk:And the Rest Is Drag/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Another Believer (talk · contribs) 18:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Averageuntitleduser (talk · contribs) 19:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Quoting this daily from now on. Averageuntitleduser (talk) 19:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for taking time to review! Happy to address any concerns ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:07, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Well-written

A pleasant read with a lot of personality! Some nit-picks:

• her relationship with her father and his death — "her relationship with [...] his death" is a bit odd, perhaps: "with her late father", or, later on: "and her feelings about his death".
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• vaguely shares — perhaps something like, "alludes", to remove any possible negative connotation.
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• (featuring Clairy Browne) — this would seem useful on the song's first mention, unless I am missing something.
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
• Violet Chachki says her look — I initially thought she was referencing Davenport's outfit.
  • Added "own". ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Verifiable with no original research

A lot of good sources! Looking at the ones of unknown reliability, their about pages, publishers, and what they cite, seem satisfactory. This is a bit silly from WERRRK.com, but yes, they were selected for archive by the Library of Congress, and WP:PLOTCITE also partially applies.

• Compounded with the blockquote, I sense a bit of over-quoting in the "Reception" section. They're part of every sentence! Of course, it shouldn't be too difficult to make some tweaks and work your magic.
  • I've done a bit of paraphrasing and also moved the commentary re: fashion by The Guardian to the fashion paragraph under "Production and fashion". ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
• Gambit Magazine may not be needed as a self-described blog.
  •  Removed ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Spot-check

• Carpentier, Megan; Rushe, Dominic (2015-05-19). "RuPaul's Drag Race recap: season seven, episode 12 – And the Rest is Drag". The Guardian. ISSN 0261-3077. OCLC 60623878. Archived from the original on 2020-03-22. Retrieved 2024-02-01.</ref>
  • Looks good Y
• Boulet, Ruth (2015-05-19). "RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 episode 12 recap: Born Naked video". Channel Guide Magazine. Archived from the original on 2024-03-01. Retrieved 2024-03-03.
  • Looks good Y
• Libby, Katie. ""RuPaul's Drag Race" Season 7, Episode 12: And the Rest is a Drag". CITY Magazine. Archived from the original on 2024-02-24. Retrieved 2024-03-03.
  • Looks good Y
• "RuPaul's Drag Race: "And The Rest Is Drag"". The A.V. Club. G/O Media. 2015-05-19. Archived from the original on 2021-06-20. Retrieved 2024-02-01.
  • Looks good Y
• "'RuPaul's Drag Race' recap: 'And the Rest Is a Drag!'". Entertainment Weekly. Dotdash Meredith. ISSN 1049-0434. OCLC 21114137. Archived from the original on 2023-05-29. Retrieved 2024-03-03.
  • I'll be lenient towards the "guest judge" and "special guest", but perhaps find a ref for the Emmy, as it's outside the Drag Race franchise. Looks good otherwise.
• "11 Times "RuPaul's Drag Race" Celebrated The Trans Community". Logo TV. Archived from the original on 2023-11-29. Retrieved 2024-03-03.
  • Looks good alongside the other ref. Y
• Ehrman-Dupre, Joe (2015-05-20). "'RuPaul's Drag Race' Recap: Season 7, Episode 12: 'And The Rest Is Drag'". IndieWire. Penske Media Corporation. Archived from the original on 2024-03-03. Retrieved 2024-03-03.
  • Looks good Y

Broad in its coverage

Many hits on Google Scholar and TWL, but upon checking, none of them discuss the episode in any detail, it just seems to be a catchy tagline. Looking through news articles and websites, I can safely say that this article is quite broad.

• I agree that it's an overall benefit, but the 110 words of background on Cameron is a bit distracting. Perhaps the list of episodes could be summarized.
  • I've trimmed a bit. I had hoped to include the relevant episode titles, but perhaps that's too much detail? I should note two of the episodes are later mentioned re: Cayne. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
    • I think it looks better, but silly me, sorry for not catching this! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 23:24, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

      No worries! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

• Could you clarify The Guardian's stance on Pearl's and Chachki's outfits? It seems to be positive considering statements like: "...give people a reason to root for you other than the fact that [you wear] corsets tighter than Miss Scarlett herself", and "...so I, like Michelle Visage, applaud [...] all efforts to channel Madonna (now two weeks running!)." Whatever you think works best!
  • Also, to segue from their shady first statement about Chachki, would any of their commentary on the contestants' personas, relationships, or exit interviews be worth a mention? Some of it isn't too tied to the episode as a whole, but I'd be interested in your opinion.
    • I would say this seems like unnecessary detail. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
      • That's fair: it's tricky, because they never really make it about the episode as a whole.

Neutral

Neutral as can be, seemingly no issues.

• • Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Stable

One revert over due weight and a recent AFD with rough consensus to keep; no major, outstanding issues.

Illustrated

Images are CC licensed from Flickr, own works, VRT confirmed, or public domain. They are quite lovely, I like the Madonna and Sally Bowles pictures for reference. However:

• Consider filling out the "non replacable" paramater in the infobox image.
  •  Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Summary

@Another Believer: Some starters for now; my other thoughts may be more extensive. Thank you for your continued patience! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 03:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

No problem! Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

@Averageuntitleduser: I've tried to address your concerns. You'll notice I just created a subsection for Fashion under Production, to follow-up on some of my above comments. Please let me know if any concerns remain. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I like the sectioning! One teeny source thing. Averageuntitleduser (talk) 17:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Averageuntitleduser Thanks! I've added a citation by the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Lovely work! Thanks for sticking with me, I'm now happy to pass this article! Averageuntitleduser (talk) 23:08, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again for reviewing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

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