Talk:Andy O'Brien (journalist)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that after Andy O'Brien broke the news of John Landy's injury, the runner refused to talk to him until 1976? Color Andy O'Brien the spectrum of sport
  • ALT1:... that Andy O'Brien was sworn to secrecy by runner John Landy in order to hide his injury during the 1954 British Empire and Commonwealth Games? John Landy
  • ALT2:... that when Andy O'Brien broke the news of John Landy's injury, the manager of the Australian team called it "pure bunk"? Didn't tell
  • ALT3:... that Andy O'Brien's report on an amateur baseball game riot earned him a job at the Montreal Standard? Hall of Famer Andy O'Brien
  • ALT4:... that while working at Eaton's, Andy O'Brien earned a job covering amateur baseball, which landed him on the front page of the Montreal Standard? Color Andy O'Brien the spectrum of sport

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tate McRae

Created by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC).

• New (created on May 22), long enough (the page is 6000+ characters without infoboxes, etc), neutral, cites sources. The list of magazines and sporting events he covered is nearly verbatim from the sources, but it's basic info that's hard to write another way. SO I don't think it counts as a problematic paraphrase. That list is repeated twice in the article (header and in the body), which is odd for such a small article, but it's fine, too. Overall, looks good. I would urge you to change "1976" to the number of years that passed, though. "1976" doesn't make sense without the context. I alike all the hooks except the second one, because it's not clear why hiding an injury matters. Prad Nelluru (talk) 03:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review Prad Nelluru. I have struck the hooks you disliked and changed 1967 to 22 years. QPQ is also done. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT0a:... that after Andy O'Brien broke the news of John Landy's injury, the runner refused to talk to him for 22 years? Color Andy O'Brien the spectrum of sport
    • The changes look great! Approved.

• Hi, I came by to promote this, but there is no indication in the source that he refused to talk to him for 22 years. He refused to talk to him for 2 years, and then they met again 20 years later. Yoninah (talk) 21:26, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah, I'm not sure how to interpret "cut him dead" but I assumed it's the same as "pretend he was dead/didn't exist." I am sure if he wished to contact him, he could've. Would a reword to something similar in the article be more suitable?
• ALT0a:... that after Andy O'Brien revealed the news of John Landy's injury during the 1954 British Empire and Commonwealth Games, the runner refused to communicate with him for 22 years? John Landy

• @HickoryOughtShirt?4: sorry, it seems like conjecture on our part. What was wrong with ALT1? Yoninah (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah The reviewer felt it should be struck because it's not clear why hiding an injury matters. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• @HickoryOughtShirt?4: Well, we see how accurate was the rest of the review. How about this wording:
• ALT5: ... that when sports journalist Andy O'Brien discovered John Landy bleeding in the locker room before the 1954 British Empire and Commonwealth Games, the runner swore him to secrecy? Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah . HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you. Since I added a fact to the hook, we need someone else to approve ALT5. Pinging our regulars Kingsif, evrik, Maile. Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

• Alt 5 is cited in article, confirmed in source. Tick per previous review. Kingsif (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
• These changes look good to me. Prad Nelluru (talk) 22:36, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
• I'm just pleased to be called a regular. --evrik ^(talk) 04:56, 4 June 2020 (UTC)