Talk:Angela's Ashes (soundtrack)

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Clunky prose[edit]

There's no reason to add "Academy Award winning composer" before mentioning Williams' name. First, those border on peacock words, and there's really no reason to talk him up.

An established fact that establishes the notability of the creator of the subject of the article is not in any way, shape, or form "peacock words". You know this, so stop being dishonest in your dialogue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.194.202.184 (talkcontribs)

The readers don't somehow learn more about the soundtrack because of it. Second, it creates an odd repetition "composed by...composer" that makes the sentence read awkwardly.

A slightly awkward (in your opinion) phrasing is not a reason to remove valid facts from an article. On the contrary, this is the exact opposite of what you should do. Reword the sentence rather than commit slash-and-burn editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.194.202.184 (talkcontribs)

Third, why do we pick the Oscar factoid as opposed to any other one about Williams? It's better to just let readers click the wikilink if they want to learn more about Williams. Croctotheface (talk) 02:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Oscar "factoid" is included to indicate that this otherwise non-noteworthy score was composed by someone who received what is generally regarded as the most prestigous award in the film industry.
Of course, we both know the real reason for your edit is that you don't like that I tried to remove your leftist drivel from the Fox v. Franken page, so now you are on some sort of crazed vendetta against me, tracking every article I edit and reversing all of them. So this discussion is pointless, since you will just run crying to your fellow left-wing editors and they will side with their comrade, as is typical on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.194.202.184 (talkcontribs)
We shouldn't be in the habit of identifying people by their accolades or awards unless it directly comes to bear on what the article is discussing. If the New York Yankees were mentioned as a pop culture allusion in a movie, we wouldn't say "the 26-time world champion New York Yankees". One of the terms described at WP:Peacock is "award-winning", and this strikes me as a very similar scenario. Croctotheface (talk) 07:29, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm opining per Wikipedia:3O. I've never interacted with anyone listed here, or in regard to this article.
Generally, readers find it useful when an article includes the title "Academy Award winning artist" or "Grammy Award winning" before the name of the recipient, no matter what the forum. However, in an encyclopedic article about a particular movie or movie soundtrack, the implication is that the award was awarded in connection with the movie or soundtrack being discussed, which is not true of Williams' Academy Award. In this case, Williams could be described merely as "award winning" with a footnote mentioning the details of his award(s).--AuthorityTam (talk) 20:02, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sinéad O'Connor[edit]

According to the page for the film, both Billie Holiday and Sinéad O'Connor contribute to the soundtrack. Holiday's contribution is mentioned here, but not O'Connor's. It's a while since I saw the film, but I'm pretty sure it was O'Connor's song "Three Babies" which featured: it would be useful if somebody who's got a copy of the DVD could check, and add a note to this page, so there's consistency between this page and the page for the film. I assume her song didn't make it onto the soundtrack CD for licensing reasons Dom Kaos (talk) 21:48, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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